Comments about the site (Oct 2001 - July 2004)




Date:
Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:43:41 -0400
From:
Philip pcampbell17@hotmail.com

Hello,
I have seen your site when I searched for "constantinople to greece" on google. Great job! I feel Turkey should give up all Greek land back to greece and all Armenian land to Armenia.
I love your site, people don't realize just how much the Turks destroyed culture in turkey with the slaughter of the Armenians and the persecution of the christians.
What is it like in Greece? Do people still like to see East Thrace back?
Phil


Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:37:32 +0200
From:
"Alex il Grande" machoturc2@hotmail.com
>Web Administrator
>When someone in your country steals property and kills the legal owner, how >is he called?
> >Here in Greece we call him murderer and criminal.
> >That is what Turkish invaders have done.
> > Alex il Grande
This is your fantasy. It's untrue what you think. Such things never happened, but I know that it is too hard for you that Istanbul has been conquered by Fatih Sultan Mehmed Han, The Conqueror. But you have to live with it. There's nothing to do. Istanbul is ours.
I don't believe this lie, but if Turkish invaders have done such things, they've done very good. Because you lyers deserve it...


Subject:
Istanbul, meine schne stadt
Date:
Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:01:48 +0200 (MEST)
From:
"zcan ztrk" dudayev@gmx.de

sehr geehrter steven runciman.
ich habe ihren artikel mit groen schwirigkeiten gelesen. das ganze ist ein komplo gegen die OSMANEN. allein unser glauben wrde es garnicht zulassen kinder und frauen "Barbarisch" zu tten! sie klingen so, als ob sie der letzte berlebende sind! ich verstehe sie auch. es gibt bestimmt solche armsehligen menschen die so eine story hren wollen.
ich lade sie dazu ein, die ware geschichte ber meine vorfahren zu erzhlen.


Date:
Sun, 30 May 2004 17:03:31 -0400
From:
"Carol Myers" myers@stnicholascenter.org
Organization:
St Nicholas Center
There has been so very much suffering in that part of the world. And so many stories not well known outside the area. I enjoyed your site very much--and the information was very helpful as well as the photos.


Subject:
Byzanz
Date:
Sat, 8 May 2004 18:52:00 EDT
From:
DatKasperle@aol.com

Hello,
you have a very good site. Do you speak german ?
greets
Christoph ( Essen, near Cologne, Germany )


Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:53:53 +0000 (GMT)
From:
"Cams18" Cams18@comcast.net

form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=LeeRoy
country=USA
suggestions=Ela GORKEM, Avez-vous fini de parler? J'ai de piti pour vous mais je n'ai pas de force de changer les coeur des hommes. Peut-etre Dieu est une personne qui peut les changer. Dsol.


Subject:
hi saw your site on canstantinople
Date:
Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:
dave noone reveducorg@yahoo.com

I like your pro westernism . Revisionists are viciously persecuted today in Europe. www.geocities.com/reocork is our site. We could do with translation by the way . You won't get justice for greece until there is a complete revolution in the political life of the west.


Subject:
Basil II the bulgaroktonos
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:36:04 +1000
From: "nick vossos" nick_vossos@hotmail.com

Hi I have an immense interest in Greek history and coming across your website I found very interesting. It seems you have put a lot of work into it and it looks great. I am well aware that Greek civilization is one that is continuous and one of three, that being the ancient city-states and empires of Alexander, the middle dominated by the Greek Byzantine Empire, and the modern with the present Greek nation. I am aware that although the Byzantine Empire became an Empire dominated by Greeks in all areas of science, arts, church, and leadership, and I was hoping you could inform me on the Greekness of Basil II the Bulgaroktonos. Do you know if he is of Greek origin? It would be much appreciated if you could reply to me and keep up the great work.
Nick Vossos


Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:18:54 EST
From:
Megolotripa@aol.com

LETS TAKES IT BACK !!!!!!!!! ALNG WITH CYPRUS AND FORCE SKOPJE TO REMOVE ANY MENTION OF MACEDONIA FROM IT`S NAME


Date: Tue Mar 16 20:35:46 2004
Name: Madame GooGue
Web Site: THE NAZI ROMANESHTI
Site Rating: 1
Comments: Oh goody !
ANOTHER anti_Turkish HATE-SITE put together in the ample free time of a sick degenerate greekling gypo from Romania. The Graphics SUCK ASS and thankfully obliterate most of the text which is a rambling collection of unqualified racist bile. Good luck with the rest of your life you sad sack of miserable turd.


Date: Mon Mar 8 16:27:04 2004
Name: Cemal Guven Asti
Site Rating: 1
Comments: Who was the inhabitants of the Anatolia before Byzantines When we look at the history we will see that Anatolia was home to many different tribes, nations. Byzantine was just one them. Ottoman Empire despite its Turkic origins, is an Islamised Byzantine. Turks living in Turkey at present are direct descents of the people previously lived in Anatolia. In other words they are descendents of Romans, Eti s, Hitits, Byzantines ets. They are also mixed with slavs, Arabs, Persians, Greek, Pomacs, Macedonians,Georgians etc. So humanity moves on with time. If Greeks have land claims based on history then Romans can also claim whole asia manor including present Greece Bulgaria, Turkey etc.
When Jews wanted to rob Palestinian land they used Torah as a basis to their robbery. Greeks seem following a similar path with jews.. If I was a greek I would wait and see the demise of jews before embarking upon the same path


Date: Fri Feb 27 12:37:19 2004
Name: Steve Kakaroukas
Site Rating: 9



Date: Sat Feb 21 12:52:29 2004
Name: Beatrice Gushgis
Site Rating: 10



Date: Fri Feb 20 02:18:39 2004
Name: RUS
Site Rating: 10
THE RUSIANS KICKED THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF THE TURKS IN EVERY RUSSO -TURKISH WAR .THE TURKS COULD ONLY FIGHT WHEN THEY OUT NUMBERED THEIR OPPONENTS ,& STILL THE RUSSIANS LICKED THEM .IN MEDEAVAL TIMES THEY OUT NUMBERED THEIR GREEK ,MAGYAR,& SLAVIC OPONNETS MANY TIMES OVER,THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS OF THIS MONGREL RACE!EVERY TIME THE OTTOMANS WERE GETTING AN ASS KICKING FROM THE RUSS THEY COWARDLY CRIED SNIVELED & PIMPED THEIR MOTHERS & SISTERS OFF TO THE WESTERN EURO POWERS SO THEY INTERVINED!THEY DID'NT CALL THE TURISH OTTOMAN EMPIRE "SICK MAN OF EUROPE FOR NOTHING,YOU HAVE STILL GOT A COUNTRY OF SICK BASTARDS!BARBARIANS ALWAYS GODS WRATH WILL BE UPON YOU FOR KILLINGS IN MODERN DAY CYPRUS!IF ZHIRONOVSKI GETS IN POWER YOU TURKS WILL BE NUKED TOAST!IF YOU DID NOT GET AMERICAN ECONOMIC , & MILLITARY WELFARE YOU'D BE STILL IN MEDIEVAL TIMES!YOUR TIME FOR ANNIHILATION IS OVERDUE , BUT IT WILL COME & THE CIVILIZED WORLD WILL BE RID OF A CANCER!ALL MUSLAMI WILL PERSISH!


Date: Thu Feb 19 15:34:31 2004
Name: george bokun
GOOD TO BE PROUD OF A CULTURE THAT TRIED TO KEEP OUT MUHUMMADAN CANCER OUT OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD FOR CENTURIES! WE SERBS TRIED ALSO , BUT A LOT OF OUR FELLOW "MEDISH" EUROPEAN IDIOTS TOOK SIDES WITH THE VERMINOUS ISLAMIC HORDES!MANY IN WEST & NORTHERN EUROPE WERE APOTHETIC,NOW WITH THE FALSE & DEMONIC MUHAMMADAN RELIGIUOS FOOLS IMMIGRATING TO THOSE AREAS , THEY WILL SOON BE OVERUN WITH THOSE PAGANS!

IF IT WAS'NT FOR FRANCE , GERMANY ,& ENGLAND ,SLAVS FROM RUSSIA, & SERBIA WOULD HAVE REDUCED TURKEY TO A SATILITE OF THE RUS!YOU ARE NOTHING BUT SATANIST INSPIRED MUHAMMAD'S DECIPLES GOING TO THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL.WHEN ISREAL THE WEST & EASTERN EUROPE BATTLES ARMEGEDDON WE ALL WILL UNITE , & THE TURKS WILL BE OBLITERATED .READ IT IN THE BIBLE ,IT STATES THE COUNTRY TO THE NORTH OF ISRAEL WILL BE ANNIHILLATED , ITS CLEAR ITS THE VERMINOUS ISLAMIC STATE OF SATANISTS IN TURKEY. THEN IT WILL BE THE REST OF THE PIGS ADHERING TO SATAN RE-INCARATE A.K.A. MUHAMMAD!
P.S. YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR HOME BOY, SO DAMN INSANE WHITE CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD UNITE , LETS DEFEAT SATANIC COUNTRIES OF ISLAM!


Subject: Leo the Wise
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:51:17 -0500
From: Brian Sellati- bsellati@yahoo.com

Dear Moderator,
My name is Brian Sellati. I am of Hellenic heritage (My father was Sicilian and my mother is Greek), living in the US. Your website is a wonderful resource because it is difficult to find information here about Hellenic history after the life of Christ, especially about Byzantium and modern Greek history. I was wondering if you had any information about Leo the Wise and his famous Oracles. I read about them when a copy in the original Greek sold at the Christie's Auction house a few years ago. I have been unable to find a modern printing in Latin, Greek or in translation. Do you have any information? I saved the auction page from the Christie's website out of interest and have attached the file, which I hope is acceptable.
Thank you for your website.
Sincerely,
Brian Sellati



Date: Thu Feb 5 19:07:33 2004
Name: TRK
Web Site: Strong Like a TURK
so...
The greek are still in the dream of taking back(!)Istanbul (i dont know how u call it "cons...") it's certain that u have some physological porblems.All greek have it:
"having Istanbul,Izmir..." and the funniest part: re-set up the "Byz..." (i dont know how it's written in English or your lang.meant "Bizans")...
that are all sweat dreams for u...( All greek" that's it.
Now u're trying your all the tricks to defeat Turkey in all directions ( Europen Union,cyrprus,...) . u could have done never and you'll never do it either... Don' forget: when we were in fornt of your doors (ottoman empire) your fathers said: "Gone away,Turks are coming, added "Strong like a Turk" "
Now the Armenians,other name " sons of bitches of united nations ( Russians,arabs,Azerians,all slavs TURKS)
they have never had their own state,nation,...they weren't connected each other like jews...they were comfortable living in ottoman but later they hit back us in world war 1. like bitches.
They have funny freams too...;
they want all eastern Anatolia...
so.. west part is to greek
east part is to armenians...
who wants the middle
listen up boys()...
for the 700 years u all (Greek,Armenian,Serbian,Slavs,Jews...) live under control of us.don't forget this ok
there is a proverb says : "History is a repeatable thing" U are in dream of takin part of our Country " Trkiye Cumhuriyeti" Be careful!!! u can lost yours...


Date: Mon Jan 26 21:33:36 2004
Name: Kosovari
Site Rating: 10
When the modern Greek state was formed, the Albanian-speaking population and its language were called Albanian, even if those Christian Albanians were considered an integral part of the Greek nation and had played a decisive role in the War of Independence between 1821-1828 (Bartholdy, 1993; Bickford-Smith, 1993: 47; Embeirikos, 1994; Vakalopoulos, 1994:243-249). However, the policy of the new Greek state was to Hellenize all the non-Greek speaking Orthodox populations within its, then limited, territory as well as in the territories of Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace and Asia Minor still under Ottoman rule, which were though considered as part of Greek irredenta. As elsewhere in Europe, army and education were the most effective mechanisms of Hellenization, assisted by the judiciary system ready to denounce and punish all forms of behavior inconsistent with the states nationalist culture.
Kitromilidis, 1990:38; Kollias, 1994.
To Turks:
Just pay to albanians they will do the jobb, they are the best,history know thats: Julius Cezar,Aleksaner the great,Ottoman empire and and many of the worlds empire.All of them conquer the world with Albanians - We just like the songs and fight.


Date: Fri Jan 2 10:19:24 2004
Name: Kay Mizell
Site Rating: 10
Private Message



Subject: Dear Friend
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 02:23:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Andrei Stirbu andrei_stirbu@yahoo.com
I want tell you that I'm a fanatic lover of the Byzantine culture and I had the ocassion to study it in a satisfactory way, being emploiedfor almost 8 years at the library of the University of the Architecture in Bucarest, where there are many good books about this subject.
I have some friends loving the Byzance, with important programs and plans (one who is illustrator want to write a book about the City, illustrated by him, anothers have scientifical works on Byzantine monuments). For me is just a love and I thank God that I had the occasion to visit that places.
Fundamentaly, I'm a fervent Christian believer and I try to live like the Fathers of the Orthodox Church. And this make the love for Byzance even more motivate. I know and I love strong the history of the Church.
I know the Greek traditions in Minor Asia. I'm oscilating to consider this or Greece the most beautiful land in the world. I know well the archaeological sites of Minor Asia and Greece, I think could write 'hundreds' of pages on this subject just by memory.
Andrei Stirbu Bucarest


Date: Wed Dec 31 10:48:53 2003
Name: fethi tolga kl
Site Rating: 10
Private Message



Date: Sat Dec 27 12:03:56 2003
Name: Pat Klein
Site Rating: 10
I'm looking for information on a Greek King & Queen in 1867. I have a bowl with them on it and it appears to be 15th of October 1867. Is this a coronation or a wedding and if you can, the names of the royals involved.
Thanks for your help.
Pat



Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:00:32 -0800
From:
"Timothy Hinshaw" evangelmetal@msn.com
I'd like to say well done on very detailed history of the Byzantine Empire. Even though I'm only 19, I've studying about this great empire recently. I envy the Byzantine Empire, it was one of the greatest Christian empires ever created. I also have a strong feeling that the empire should be rejuvenated and begin again. I was also appalled by the crimes and genocide that our so called "ally" Turkey has done. I agree fully that Cyprus should be freed from Turkish occupation and that the United States and Britain should stop being idiots and help Cyprus reestablish itself under home rule. Well you guys are doing a great job letting others know about these crimes so good luck. Sincerely,
Tim Hinshaw



Date: Sat Nov 1 01:18:52 2003
Name: Thea Litsa
Web Site: Annette's Broken Heart by Greek Ex Boyfriend
Site Rating: 10 Dear Annette Lawrence,
I see your Greek ex boyfriend has scarred you for life, though with an attitude like yours, who could blame him for dropping you like yesterday's news And yes, you should definitely take up with a Turk. Lord knows you should make yourself useful and help a Turkish boy get his citizenship -- before he too drops you.
And as the Greek-hater you pretend to be, I fail to understand why you torture yourself by being a "Byzantinist" -- a Hellenic subject matter. I pity you for the confusing state I imagine you're constantly revolving in. No wonder you sound dizzy. -- or is it you meant Botanist Still, that requires intelligence too.
Hmmmm....
Preetz
Thea


Date: Tue Oct 28 15:33:35 2003
Name: Dimtiris Xypteras
Site Rating: 4
The only people that sympathise with a fanatic are other fanatics that already share the same view, so you are going to gain no sympathy with this style. The current approach will do your intended target more harm than good. A different approach is necessary to illustrate the problems described, although most of them are actually irrelevant to the website. Perhaps a diffrernt site is necessary.
Few people are familiar with Byzantine history, this site is a good opportunity to promote it.


Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:20:11 +0300
From:
Christis Georgalletos c.georgalletos@unicom-cy.com
Organization:
UNICOM

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Chris
country=CYPRUS
suggestions=Dear "Annette" or Katerina.....
It seems that you are forgeting about Englands "Miracles" in World History....
Cyprus = Succeded into bringing Turkish Invation to the Island because people needed their indepentend.
Korea = Same
India/Pakistan = Same
America = Same

You people will never understand how it is when something is taken from you by force. You have never lived a war except the NAZI where bombarding England. Turks, fo you think that US will fund your country for ages? As for EU , well i don't think you have a chance. Do you know the meaning of being a REFUGEE? NO!
Im not a violent person who only thinks about war.
I do not believe that Greeks are war-friendly people but when that day comes(and we hope that we will never come that far)....we know how to get our STOLEN citys Islands, towns BACK! Cyprus is Greek what ever the Turks say. CONSTANTINOPOLE Is Greek will always be Greek because the souls of the people remain and wait for us to come back and claim whats ours. Thanks.


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:53:42 +0300
From:
"Annette Lawrance" salesagency@btconnect.com

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Katerina
country=England
suggestions=This web site is the most appaling thing I have ever seen, you are a bunch of bigoted and ignorant nazis who should not be allowed to have access to any forum of free speech. I find Greek people appaling in their narrow minded attitude to the world and unable to stop living in the past. You as a race are not the founders of all modern culture and quite frankly I would rather entertain a Turk any day over a Greek. All the greek people I have met, and believe me I have met many having spent much time in Greece undertaking academic research (i am a Byzantinist), are rude and generally unpleasant, much like Greek cooking. On the other hand I have nothing but compliments for Turkey, the kindness of the people and the general warmth and affection exhibited by all there. I intend never to visit Greece again such is my dislike for everything Greek. Oh yes and please take a good look at your own political morals before commenting on those of others you hypocrites


Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:51:54 +1000
From:
"Casey, Robert" rmcasey@students.latrobe.edu.au

Can I just say that I think many people that left you messeges , were rude and disrespectufl. It is only natural that one would write with their heart in such cases as genocide. Some of the people that left you messeges in your comments book , concern me!!! Thank you for giving me those web site addresses , thats very kind. Did you know that Turkey has been paying Ameerica for many years to re write Turkish history? Turkey did have strong allies , and she also took advanatge of the political climate at the time. I am sure that Imperial Russia could have helped to restore Bzantuim. However the British , French and Germans seemed to be supportimg the Ottoman Empire for their own SELFISH reasons. Indeed Greece was abandoned by its European neighbors. Did you also know that Imperail Germany was aware that Turkey was conducting a program of Hellenic genocide in Asia Minor??
I liked your site
But some peoples comments were very rude , indeed!


Date: Wed Sep 24 04:25:32 2003
Name: robert
Site Rating: 10
I think this site is very informative and detailed. It is good to know that the truth about what happened in the Asia Minor catastrophe is being placed on the internet. However my only concern is the response from some of your other readers. I am a university student and studying the Greeks that once were in Asia Minor, which is of great interest to me. I find the Trebizond region to be fascinating, and I would like to have a look there one day. It would be good if you could give more detailed information about fourteenth century life in Pontos, when their civilisation was at its height.
Please keep up the good work
Regards


Date: Fri Sep 12 10:37:02 2003
Name:
Site Rating: 10
Please take a look at this site. History from another point of view. Who divided ROMAN empire to Ethnic states?
http://www.romanity.org/htm/rom.21.en.the_ethnic_cleaning_of_roman_history.01.htm


Date: Wed Sep 10 07:57:32 2003
Name: Joy Rachelle Ann Tarog
Site Rating: 10
Superb!!!



Date: Sun Aug 31 13:46:19 2003
Name: Paul Evrenidis
Site Rating: 10



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:44:39 -0700
From:
Ramon Mendoza rmendoza@tns.net
You side has an excelent way of expression for people like me trying to fin d The history I am impress and I receive answer to many questions Thanks.
Sincerely,
R.Mendoza


Date: Tue Aug 12 15:23:52 2003
Name: Onoufrios Gorozidis
Site Rating: 10
PONTIAKO IDRIMA PANAGIA
SOYMELA AUSTRALIAS & NEAS ZILANDIAS
To Pontiako idrima Australias ke Neas Zilandias Programatizi Tin Diorganosi Mias Neas Pambontiakis Ke Pambapikiakis Ekstratias Gia Tin Demdrofitepsi Tou OROUS MELA Stis 31 Augoust 2003. Mporite Na Mas Stilete Meson Email mtmela@satlink.com.au.
Apo Tous BOARDER DIRECTORS & CHARMAN Onoufrios Gorozidis Ke dikitiko Simvoulio Pavlos Dimitriadis.
Georgios Iakovidis Stefanos Eleftheriadis (Thanasis Tsakiridis Savidis savas apo Sydney) Nikolaos Eleftheriadis apo Adelaida)
Dimitrios Akritidis Arhitecton Anastasios Moisidis Dikigoros Leonidas Tsogas Ginekatou ine Pontia Politikos Mihanikos Dimitrios Gorozidis 18 eton ipopsifios
Dikigoros Panagiota ( simvoliografos) Politis Fethon Papadopoulos
Daskalos Fanis Petidis Sotiris Dimitriadis( KE Epitropi Filoptohos)
Proedros Despina Tsongas Simela Eleftheriadou Palasi Sidiropoulou Ana Eleftheriadou Ypatia Gorozidou Maria - Emi Despina Tseprailidou Maria Hatsisimionidou


Date: Fri Jul 18 15:45:30 2003
Name: Pandelis
Site Rating: 10
Mpravo
Para poly kali douleia
synexise auto to ergo to opoio timaei kai den afinei tin istoria tis pio simantikis polis, kai pragmatikis proteuousas twn Ellhnwn na 3exastei.
Oloi oi Ellhnes ypostirizoume kai kalwsorizoume tetoies prwtoboulies kai egw proswpika niw8w perifanos gia tous Synellhnes mou, san ki esas, pou maxeste, me ton diko sas tropo bebaia, gia ton Ellhniko politismo kai tin diadwsh ths alh8eias se olous tous laous ths Ghs.
Pantelhs Papadopoulos, Kilkis.
PS: To everybody.
Don't listen to anything that comes from a turkish mouth. It's propaganda. Everybody who knows just a little bit of the true history of the Byzantine Empire knows the truth about Constantinople. That may sound like Greek propaganda too but be sure that it's the truth. I know it. I've learned the same in Germany that I learned in Greece but somehow learn only the Turks what their government wants them to know. But what can you expect from a nationalistic country that is ruled by its army and has always killed and massacred their enemies, even unarmed. This country was, is, and will always be uncivilized and will always make use of every "dirty" and insidious way to assert themselves... (best examples : kurds, armenians, greeks nearly every nation that had contact with them)TOURKOS KALOS MONO NEKROS (akougetai fasistiko alla prepei na syneiditopoiisoume oti etsi skeftontai kai autoi. H emeis H autoi!!!)


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:49:15 -0400
From:
"James Bouboulis" homerjb@ix.netcom.com

form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Irene Bouboulis
country=USA
suggestions=Great story and well written



Date: Mon Jun 30 15:02:02 2003
Name: Aneyn
Site Rating: 1
.i am very angry that some of my relatives died with PKK terorism and some of greek protect them.iam angry that greek people killed 40.000 Turkish people when they were in izmir. (in one day).(in the massacres there were the greek people who were free inottoman time too.) Do not make us wake up please.Because if you make we wake up,you will see the madness of the silence.just think that we can be in athens in 12 hours...Just live with peace. Got it racist???????
God is with us...


Date: Sun Jun 15 15:25:12 2003
Name:Elsa
Site Rating: 10
Hello, this is excactly our history our Greek history which some people on purpose keep hiding from the outer. I would be very happy if everybody saw this webpages. Iam very proud of being Greek and i want every human beeing to learn my history which goes back very early, earlier than some people believe!!!


Subject:
ISTANBUL NOT CONSTANTINOPLE!
Date:
Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:31:19 +0300
From:
"Baris Dogu" barisdogu@msn.com

ISTANBUL NOT CONSTATINOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
English: I FUCK ALL greek!
Turke: Butun Yunanlilari sikeyim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FUCK EUROPEAN PEOPLE'S
ATHENS 2004 OLYPMPIC SEX PARTY ( HA HA HA )
by TuRKeY


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 26 May 2003 21:23:33 +0100
From:
"Nicolas Kkama" dk015b3305@blueyonder.co.uk
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Nikolas
country=England
suggestions=I believe a new wind has begun to gather in Europe and the Europeans, as weak as they are will fall to islam and the Ellines will once again be thrown into the primal seat of force in the heartland of European politics again.


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sun, 18 May 2003 03:23:18 EDT
From:
Epanastates@aol.com

Hi,your site is amasing,finaly the rest of the world will find out that turks are nothing than pigs!It makes me laugh, when I read the statments of the turkish sissy boys that want war against MOTHER GREECE!They are so tough that they always have to kiss USA ass in order to be safe from their neighbors!To me they are just a bunch of shitheads,because they are so stupid,that they only count in the fact that their population is bigger than ours.Those assholes forget that our military is technologicaly more advanced than theirs!Remember when the shits=turks were crying about the russian S-300 we put in the two islands? But what do you expect,from stupid ass people that live under military junta,and think they live under democracy?Their goverment rips em off with taxation,but its okey,because these money is to built a strong military?Thats how dam asses these people are!Anyway like half brazilian I am ,it happen for me to realy enjoy the last soccer world cup,where Brazil fucked turkey=shit twice and send their whore stink asses ,back to their third world shithole think that they consider a country.Thats all for now,keep doing a good job dude,and remember,GOOD turk IS ONLY THE DEAD turk!ZHTO H ELLAS!


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
15 May 2003 07:45:29 -0700
From:
"Gertraud Dreher" traudi_dreher@hotmail.com

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Turk kizi
country=Turkiye
suggestions=I dont see any Greek standing up and saying, Hey guys we made our own mistakes. We are not as innocent as we like to believe. Instead you are attacking my country my fellow people. Couple of days ego I read somewhere a comment (funny for you maybe) about the English soldiers killed GELIBOLU AND CANAKKALE. This Turkish guy was told by an English man; WE DONT LIKE TURKS BECAUSE YOU SHOT AND KILLED SO MANY OF OUR SOLDIERS IN GELIBOLU AND CANAKKALE. His answer was, DID WE INVITE? Yes, did we invite the English, French Russians, Greeks and other crusaders to take away our land?
Please before you criticize us Turks think what your government has done in the past. Past is past. Has to be left there. End of the day above all we are HUMANS. Not Greek not French not American but human. I love people regardless of color, religion or language.


Sas eyharisto poly kai "i romanian k'epethanen, esh kialo".



Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 16 Apr 2003 01:20:11 +0300
From:
"Luis" lpna@able.es

form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=Luis Perez
country=Spain
suggestions=It's the first time I have entered your website and I am really fascinated. It's really well done. Congratulations!

I went through all the comments about the site and there was something that surprised me a lot:the lack of historic knowledge by most Turkish visitors to the web. I don't really know what goes on in Turkish schools but I suspect historic education is biased in favour of a pro-Turkish interpretation of history. It is obvious that dictatorial regimes try to embellish past errors and mistakes. I suppose Turkey is a state that has recently become a democratic country and therefore people are still suffering the manipulations of dictators such as Kemal Atatrk and his followers, only interested in creating a strong Turkish identity regardless of minorities or different viewpoints.

I think it is vital for Turkey to accept its errors if it wants to become a full member of a democratic Europe. Self-criticism is not a sign of weakness but rather of strength. A clear example of that is Post Second World War Germany, accepting its responsibility on the Holocaust and soon after becoming one of the most respected open-minded democracies in the world. I think countries are like people. It's easier to blame others for your mistakes, but if you manage to accept your responsibility for those mistakes you grow as a person and are able to take the reins of your own change. I believe that Turkey is terribly frightened of coping with its recent past: the Armenian genocide, the expulsion of the Greeks, the repression of minorities, etc. No wonder! There are fewer countries with a worse human rights record!. There is this kind of historic amnesia that allows the Turks to keep blaming others because if they got to know what their ancestors did they could feel really ashamed.

Self-criticism implies looking into the mirror and see reality as it is; it's tough but the prize is enormous: you know who you are. The opposite is self-deceit and blindness, and history is full of self righteous fanatics who never wanted to look themselves in the face. I once went to Turkey and got very angry because the guides never told us about the Byzantine past. They kept telling us that the ruins were Lydian or Hittite or Roman, but never Byzantine. They put us off from going and visit the old Byzantine churches because they told us they were in ruins. The Ottoman remains were the best, according to them. It actually reminds me of what happened in my country, Spain, while dictator Franco was alive: everything Christian was valuable and worth studying, reading or visiting; the strong Muslim tradition was frowned upon and never taught at school. Now we know that our Arab legacy helped shape who we are and some of the best traits in our character, cuisine, art, literature, way of life, etc. come from that legacy.

Dear Turkish brothers: be brave and accept your past. There is much to gain and nothing to lose. Truth is the only thing that can make us all free.


Date:
Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:06:58 -0400
From:
"John Orphanos" IOAVVIS@msn.com

Greetings from America a fabulous site for us Greeks abroad!!! ZITO H ELLADA



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 5 Apr 2003 14:22:13 EST
From:
MasisP@aol.com
I am Armenian and laugh at the pathetic attempts by the accursed Apostates who call themselves 'Turks' in trying to find excuses for why their rotten ancestors had to murder over 5 million Christians from 1914 to 1974. If they are not careful God will send more Earthquakes, HyperInflation and a Cold Shoulder from the EEC and USA... I chant KIRI ELAISOIN KIRI ELAISOIN KIRI ELAISOIN whenever I stand in the vicinity of Haghia Sophia on visits... Masis


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:34:42 +0300 (EEST)
From:
"Nikos Karatasios" nk_vip@mail.gr

form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Tommy
country=USA-Chicago

suggestions=Hi there, i am american and all i have to say is a Big thank to all of you who creata this site, cause it helped me a lot in my project for a lesson of mine. You see, i am student in NorthPark univercity of Chicago state. Secondly, i would like to say that everyone in the whole world knows the truth, everyone knows that everything started fron Greece, everyone apart from the Turks, unfortunatelly. According to all the people here in America, Roman Empire was a Greek Empire, after all everyone who ruled that Empire was speaking and writting Greek! Anyway, I curse all the Turks who stopped the Greeks of developing their great culture, a culture that transfered to the whole world. I would like to say hello to all the Greeks who should know that here in America we do not forget and one day we will give to the Turks a great lesson! By the way, did you know that in the begining of the previous century the word "Turk" was synonimous to "sucker"? A Turk would be very angry if someone called him "Turk". Fare well my friends!


Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:28:31 -0500
From:
"cynthia v thomas" cthomas9416@charter.net
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=Cynthia Thomas
country=USA
suggestions=Love to see, right under the painting/portrait, the name of the artist, years artist lived, date painted, title of painting and where (which museum and or private collection) they can be seen in person. You have such a great collection of historical art.


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Tue, 18 Mar 2003 02:55:36 +0200
From:
"Ismail Karagulle" rabbit7@yahoo.co.uk

form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=rabbit
country=Is it important?
suggestions=hi all world!!we must live with peace

nazis+greeks+turks+americans+kurds+armenians+ALL..... but somes dont want to know truth.the truth is turks are not the barbarian and the did not genocide to ermanians.they jus kicked out the armenians in their land.Nazis genocided the jews.These are different thinks.again you and we know all truths but somes not.i love greeks,germans.......fuck all these bullshits.just live how you want..C'ya.


Subject:
TSk tsk ts...
Date:
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:04:39 -0800 (PST)
From:
Arslan Bey cyborgs13@yahoo.com
What the hell did you do to these pictures?
Is this your dream? Is this what you want?
Check the photographs people, see a difference?
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/agiasof20.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/ayasofya.jpg (Not a good job in taking out the Minarets here)
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/sophie1.jpg
What the hell is up with this? I made many sites, and I never painted over Greek writings!

You racist fools, you should be ashamed for covering up history!
Respect each other!



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
11 Mar 2003 00:19:33 +1100
From:
"Paul A Andersen" divetimp@iprimus.com.au
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Paul
country=Australia

suggestions=A bit of a simplification, there were Hittites, Lykians, Cilicians, and a whole lot of other people there before and as well as the Greeks. Definitly Ionia, Aeolia & Caria were Greek and apart from a lot of Roman building vitually everything post 4th C AD is Greek.

I spent about 7 weeks there and I agree with you all the good things are mainly Greek, Roman or Byzantine. The place has been on a slide ever since the fall of Constantinople in 1453.

All the ancient & Byzantine historical sites nothing to do with the Turks apart from being exploited to get Tourist dollars or in the past used as quarries. I have also noticed they only restore the sites they can charge Tourists to see. Even Hagia Sophia and the Hippodrome are neglected, and the Great Land walls of Theodosius are falling to pieces. I saw some Turks living opposite the wall dumping their garbage in one of the towers.

I've been to Constantinople, the Chersonese, Troy, Kappadokia, Antalya, Myra, Caesaria, Xanthos, Telmessos, Kaunos,Patara, Ephesos, Halikarnassos and all are not Turkish.

It's funny that most Turks say The city is not Constantinople it's Istanbul. They don't even know that Istanbul is derived from the Greek Istan pol(is) - In the City.


Subject:
Constantinople
Date:
Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:31:26 +0000
From:
"Nero Kolossus" henry901@hotmail.com

I just happened to see this site when I was searching material for Constantinople and thought this site was dedicated to the memory of the Queen of Cities. In fact, the pictures and historic information was pretty well. But when I visited the forum, I noticed some nasty debates were going on. Believe it or not, as a Turk, I am an admirer of Roman and Byzantian history and culture. And I regret that so few have remained to our day from these great civilizations. Yes, we Turks have not kept them safe, throughout the decades, and its a pity. But Turkey is a Republic, just like Greece and deserves better judgement from the Greek people. We, Turks do not hate you. We want to love you. But most of us become angry of you because some of you make childish things like putting Greek flags over photos, mentioning Armenian massacre in WWI or some other sorry events. They are history and we all feel sorry about what happened in the past. But all these do not have any relation with the new Turkish Republic.

The Ottomans were in control and we all know that they are not the most humanist empire in history. Yes, they sacked Constantinople, killed those who surrendered, raped the women, children and even the nuns, desecrated the churches, destroyed valuable icons, put the holy places to fire. I cannot imagine what they might have done to Emperor Constantine if they captured him on the battlefield. But all these true events are not present in Turkish history records. All we are told was Mehmet II's glorious entrance to the city, and his order of leaving the people and the capital unharmed. Of course. this is from the Turkish point of view, and its wrong. But what about the Greek vision? What about still claiming Istanbul as a Greek city? Is it totally objective? Nobody is perfect. We have our mistakes and you have yours. So it is time to put aside our differences and understand each other. I want to say one more thing to those Turkish barbarians who wrote here all the sexual literature they know of. YOU CANNOT BE TURKS. You are a bunch of primitive monsters thats all. I'm mostly embarrased of what you wrote here. You know, you live a lie. If you want to know what happened in 1453 or in 1915 go and search for some historical content on the net. I am always seeking the truth. And the truth hurts me. My mother's grandfather killed a young Armenian girl despite her pleas to save her and marry her, because he was ordered to do so. All his life he regretted and blamed himself of his crime. I hope, one day we (Turks and Greek) will live in this great city in harmony and bring back it's shining glory.

PS. Byzantian Empire is Roman, not Greek. It may have been influenced by Hellenistic life style over the centuries, but the Empire was still Roman.
Oguz from Istanbul (as well as Constantinople and Byzantium)


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:55:05 +0200
From:
"Tzika Rena" tzikas@acsmi.gr
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=katerina
country=Greece
suggestions=Hi! I wasnt going to comment such propagandistic side but I read the forum and I
realised that some Turks are also here. I just want to confirme what a Turk said. These are not
what the majority of Greeks believe. Istanbul was Greek, is Turkish.



Date:
Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:19:46 +0200
From:
"Efimovsky" efimovsk@012.net.il
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Ksenia
country=Israel
suggestions=Bubulina was arvanitisa, albanian,as were many of the heroes of the greek
revolution.Please read Byron about this!!



Date:
Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:17:29 -0800
From:
"BOMBACI MULAYIM" NISANTASLI2000@hotmail.com
FUCK YOU ...... ANANI 600 SENE SIKTIK YETMEDIMI OROSPU COCUKLARI..



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:29:32 +0200
From:
"Ramesses The Great" ramesses_ii@hotmail.com
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=The Voice of Basileuousa
country=The Centre of the World

suggestions=A great source of photos which helped me to imagine the Constantinople... of the Greek and Byzantine era, when it was the capital of Imperium Romanum. However, you and you friends are insisting on forgetting a truth: The date *1204 AD makes sense for you? I hope so. That's why when the siege began in 1453, the people of Istanbul preferred to be living under Turkish rule instead of that of the Catholics... The benevolence of the Turks, which can be seen as a strategic mistake, now lets you to talk in such a pathetic way. Do you think there would be so many churches remained, as they are if we were not benevolent? We changed Hagia Sophia in to a museum, as a step to get rid of all the possible idiotic problems between our religions, though as you know it's a Church-Mosque. Or do you think that your Patriarch would remain as Patriarch even after more than 500 years in his position, if we were not benevolent? The Patriarch has all the titles, except as a political ruler, of the Byzantine Emperor, given by Mehmed the Conqueror. Would it be possible do you think? If it was the Greeks that conquered Constantinople from the Turks, they would not show the same benevolence, this is the absolute truth. You may have your so-called Emperor Theodoros IX of the so-called Lascaris-Comnenos Dynasty in San Francisco or dream about the so-called enosis and the Megalo Idea. We'll not liberate the wonderful city of the Goddess of War and Wisdom - Athens nor your fellows invade The Centre of the World - the Queen of all of the cities of the world from New Zealand to Alaska - Istanbul. Actually, if you look into the history carefully, you'll see that the Greek civilization does not belong to here, too, in the way you understand the historical facts. The Greeks, like many other people, have migrated from Asia during very ancient times... Go and check it carefully if you don't believe me... I hope you also know that the Patriarch don't like what you are doing... My dear friends, stop losing your time with trying to get Istanbul and other ancient Greek colonies back, work for making Greece a state that can rival the United Kingdom or Germany or Russia. I don't know, even the USA. If you want to work on Constantinople in some way, then do it in the way that you should do! Make researches on it, study on it as a civilisation, as your past, Not as a dream. It's truly impossible or very difficult to find somethings about the Byzantine Constantinople on the Internet. Work for that. Accept the truth that you don't have the chance to get Istanbul like we won't get Greece from you. There is a trick being played between our nations. If you know your history very well, you'll be quick to see that it was the tactic of the Byzantine Emperors. We can work together better when we endure our hostilities between our nations... Remember the date *1204 AD. You'll be betrayed sometime... If you don't listen to me, listen to Einstein, who said "Don't forget your past, plan your future but live the moment." Stop living in history start doing something useful for today. By the way, I have many Greek originated friends in Istanbul, what I see is that you don't have a chance to get their favor. They won't support you at all. Guess why? Due to the true benevolence of the Turks! But I think it's going to take thousands of years you to understand this. How unfortunate: As a teenager, it should not be my job to save you from ignorance...

*For the ones who have no idea about 1204 AD - The Fourth Crusade took place between 1202-1204 and it was aiming to invade the Holy Land, like all of the 8 crusades. The Jewel of Europe was the best at that time: It had the greatest fortifications, Hagia Sophia had the grandest dome of the world and although the Empire was getting smaller each passing day, it was stil the richest and the greatest. There were about 40 years for the Mongolian Invasion of Asia and Europe... On contrary, Europe was very poor, plague was everywhere and the Popes were telling the people that "their words were not belonging to them but belonging to God" (Innocentius III). On their way, the crusade had to pass Constantinople and hail the emperor. The city was in gold everywhere, impressive and imposing with its wealth... Guess what? That crusade decided not to go to the Holy Land but invade Constantinople! This betrayal led the Empire split into four pieces, the Despots of Mora, south of Greece, The Empire of Trebizond, the Empire of Nicea and the Empire of Latins at Constantinople. When Mikhail VIII liberated the city in 1261, the city was not in very good condition and began to decline as a Byzantine city.

To sum up what I want to say, there are Turks in Greece and Greeks in Turkey. We lived peacefully for centuries, and just after the French Revolution, we became enemies again because others didn't want us to live in peace together. I've been to many parts of Greece and Greek Islands - Thesalonikia, Alexandrople, Chios, Rhodoes, Herakleion, Chania, Lesbos, Samos, Kos, Thera... and met many Greek people and we acted friendly to each other. I don't know what to say anymore. I hope my writings will be online.


Subject:
kalimera
Date:
Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:14:04 +0100 (CET)
From:
Dejan.Zuzek@uni-lj.si

Kalimerasas!
Do You know any particular facts about early suliot migarations??
Thanks and best regards
FILIKOTATA
from Dejan Zhuzhek, Ljubljana, Slovenija.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:11:32 -0800
From:
"spartak muco" mucospartak@hotmail.com
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Spartak
country=Albanian
suggestions=Suli spoke Albanian and they thought of themselves as Albanians. Remember our contributions.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:21:32 +0100
From:
"Meftun Karasubasi" meftun.ks@web.de
(The writing of a turk)
name=Bozkurt
country=deliruzgar21@hotmail.com

suggestions=Ben size selamla baslamiyorum cunku selama degecek insan degilsiniz ben kck yunanlilar tek seyi ile taniyorum ne oldugu ise yunan karilarinin nasil sex yaptiklarini sizde bilirsiniz cnk serefsizler sizde yunansiniz siz gtten sikilmeye aliskin bir milletsiniz sizi zamaninda siktik yine sikecegiz gtnzn kasintisi okadar cok mu artti o kadarmi cok yarak istiyorsunuz bizim ISTANBULu feth ederken yunanlilari siktigimiz yalan ama sizin karilarinizi bizlere sattiginiz dogru sizin karilarinizin cogunun gtnde TRK dl var bunu inkar edemezsiniz sizi zamaninda nasil sike sike yiktik ise zamani gelince yine sike sike yikacagiz buna emin olun kpekler bile yal yedigi tasa sicmaz daha gecen yil alman nazilerin elinden iki yunani kurtaran TRKler degilmiydi eninde sonunda gebereceksiniz biz hic bir zaman sizden kacmadik kacmayiz cesaretiniz varsa yreginiz varsa meydanlara inin derdinizi orada syleyin her nerede olursa biz haziriz.


Date:
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:19:57 +0100
From:
Mehmet Blkbasi mehmet.bb@web.de
Organization:
Wieso msst ihr euch betrgen?Die Geschichte ist ganz eindeutig klar!!!
Diese seite besteht 100% aus BETRUG!!!



Subject:
Basil II page of your website
Date:
Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:28:53 +0000
From:
"binya even" angrybear666@hotmail.com
Hi.
I am an English user of your excellent website, and have found it very useful. However, I find the English is often inaccurate. As you have helped me with my research on the Bulgar Slayer, I would like to offer to go through your pages and correct the English inaccuracies.
Thank You

Binya Even


Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:51:32 +0100
From:
Miriam Gndogdu mguendogdu@wconsult.biz
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Meryem
country=germany
suggestions=schade, dass noch menschen wie dich gibt



Subject:
Need help with your website?
Date:
Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:19:10 +0000
From:
"Bradley Schirmer" beer_on_a_stick@hotmail.com

Hi, tonight i visited your site and was thoroughly impressed by what i saw. Although i myself am not of Hellenic descent, i am a strong admirer of the culture of the Greek and Byzantine civilization which i believe is the true creator and protector of western civilization. Always i have admired the culture, intelligence, creativity, piety, strength, determination and courage of the people of the Hellenic world. Finally there is a site dedicated in its own right to the great Byzantine Empire which makes a proper effort to give it the coverage and credit which this nation truly deserves.

I am a dedicated student of history and, though i am only 17, have read widely about byzantium as well as a range of other civilizations related to its history, such as the roman empire, persia, the spread of the arabs and islam, russian civilization, the turks and the crusades. As an admirer of Byzantine history who wishes also for the TRUTH to be understood i regularly read and revise many sources of history, both modern and also works of byzantine authors themselves, such as the commentaries of Prokopios and the Alexiad of Anna Komnena.

I see your site is very well organised and contains a multitude of areas which are well documented. However, some areas could be improved and i feel it is here i could make a contribution, free of charge, to allowing the truth to be told so that Byzantine civilization can be enjoyed in its true glory. In particular i would be happy to compose pieces to add to the emperors section, in which unfortunately the lives and reigns of only a few emperors are documented. I would also be happy to offer to write and edit in other areas and to offer advice, again free of charge, to contibute as fully as i can to making this site as great as the civilization which it represents. Please reply soon.

Fellow Byzantinist, Brad.


Date:
Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:18:18 +0200
From:
"THE TURK FUCKS EVERY HELLENIC AND THEIR MOTHERS" birturk@hotmail.com

senin anan,bacn,slaleni, eiktekini,beiktekini, 7 ceddini siken kahraman bir helal st emmi TRK' ten selamlar... yaptn site tam senin gibi bir orospu evladna yakr bir site olmu, hi merak etme ezelden beri sizi siken ve sikmeye devam edecek olan barbar trkler avrupann kapsna dayand yani suyun snd orospunun evlad...


Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:31:29 -0800 (PST)
From:
Chris Midwesterner chrismidwestwisconsin@yahoo.com
Hi, I saw that really cool postcard on your site It had a lady with greek flag and a Greece
that had all of Constantinople and Anatolia. Was this made during the early twenties war with
Turkey?

Thanks, have been checking out your site on and off
for years.
Chris



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
1 Jan 2003 11:10:30 -0800
From:
"Dimitrios G. Panagiotidis" dimitriosp@hotmail.com
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Dimitrios
country=Panagiotidis

suggestions=I think that sites like this do a great service to humanity (including Turkey). Humanity needs to know what happened and the Turkish people should learn and accept the crimes, genocides and atrocities their ancestors committed. Only when they assume responsibility and extend a sincere apology to ALL affected (Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, etc.) then the world can move on. Instead they are continuing the "policy" of "fire and iron", the only practice their tribe has perfected.

No one "hates" Turkey or spreads propaganda. We all talk about peace and want it but it is Turkey who behaves like the bully of the region since 1100 A.D.

Of course it is NOT the Turkish people who are to blame but their government. But since the government is voted (is it really in Turkey though?) by the people, it is your responsibility -you the Turks- to modernize and democratize your nation.

It is extremely sad to see that you are being taught a history so different than any other European (and civilized) country. You must wake up and realize than unless you shape-up you will always be alienated and remain the outcast of the rest of the world.

Do not fool yourselves with the apparent USA support and backing. They do not care less for you (on the contrary they dislike your country's lack of achievement) all they want is to USE YOU for promoting their own interests. Without USA backing you would disintegrate in a matter of days to the tribal and multiethnic state you were before your "father" Kemal came into play. Indeed, how can a country adore and worship a person who is responsible for issuing orders facilitating the killing, raping, death-march, labor camps, stealing, (and many many more) inflicted on the Armenians, Greeks and other non-Turks throughout the centuries.

You are a constant menace to our region and will continue to destabilize it unless you GROW UP and realize that the world has changed.

Your hypocrisy is such that you take marvels of art, engineering, religious monuments etc and instantly baptize them as Turkish culture when your tribe is not known for ever creating culture, you were nomads and worriors. Most countries have left intact muslim mosques -some of them open and operating- for muslim people to excercise their religious rights. You have defaced the mosaics in Agia Sophia, written arabic/muslim all over the interior, prohibited the priests to perform services, and many many other insensitivites like erecting minares around it to make it look like a muslim mosque! You are unbelievable! Is this ever possible? Monuments are left as they were, preserved for the next generations to enjoy and respected as far as their cultural and religious context. But in Turkey everything non Turkish is treated as evil. How insecure one must be to be acting like this???

Please! Turkish people. Please take ownership and responsibility! Free your country from the military junta that operates under the cover and pretext of a democratic/parliamentary system.

You will be making a great service to the world and YOU above all!

PLEASE!!!



From: Richard James Riley rjr@richardriley.ca
Subject: KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:33:38 -0500
country=Canada
suggestions=Beautiful Site, except for the sound.
Having sound on a web site is considered distracting and quite passe



Dec 7 2002
superlokman@web.de superlokman@web.de
Selam!
I hope you understand german, if not I can write the next letter in english.
Vorerst einmal ist es nie auszuschlie?en, besonders zur damaligen Zeit, dass bei Eroberungen
geplundert oder gemordert wurde.
Allerdings ist die griechische Darstellung, die bewu?te Schandung der Hagia Sophia ma?los
ubertrieben. Wenn man die damaligen Chronistenberichte aus byzantinischer und turkischer Sicht liest, glaubt
man zwei ganz verschieden Kriegsgeschen zu lesen.
Nach griechischer Sich wurden die brutalsten Verbrechen begangen, nach turkischer Sicht
Barmherzigkeit gewaltet.
Aus objektiver sich un in 'Anbetracht dessen, dass die Osmanen Konstantinopel zur Hauptstadt
ausrufen wollten, ist heute mit Sicherheit zu sagen dass eine Plunderung wie sie aus
griechischer Sicht immer wieder dargestellt wird nicht zutreffen, ja sogar gelogen sind.
Mit Sicherheit sind Greueltaten verubt worden, denn sie sind bei jeder Schlacht noch Gang
und Gebe(leider).

allerding gibt heute selbst die christliche Geschichtsschreibung zu, das die Osmanen
wesentlich toleranter waren als die Christen, ja es den Juden noch nie besser ging
im Mittelalter als unter osmanischer Herrschaft.
Der Artikel ist insofern bis auf den letzten Absatz akzeptabel.
Eine Niederlage ist immer schmerzlich, jedoch kein Grund zur falscher Berichterstattung.
VE aleykum selam ve rahmetullah



Subject:
PERMISSION TO USE YOUR IMAGES?
Date:
Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:28:25 -0600
From:
Pippin Michelli michelli@ariadne.org
To: fstav@tee.gr, Pippin Michelli michelli@ariadne.org

Dear Webmaster, Photos of Constantinople
I am a part-time professor of art history in America, and I have built
and maintain a website for teaching purposes. The site is quite
well-known and receives over a thousand visitors a month. It also has
a unique section on stained glass, which is becoming the most popular
part of the site. I have just added a supplement to this section to
explain the architectural background for stained glass, and I have
illustrated it with the best images I could find on the web. Each is
borrowed as a large "thumbnail" and linked directly back to its
original site, and there is also an acknowledgment in the "alt" tag.

I hope it is alright that I have borrowed 4 of your images of Haghia
Sophia from the page:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7823/

Would you kindly visit my site and let me know if this arrangement is
acceptable to you? It is part of the section on "Church Windows
Before Stained Glass", which is linked to this url:
http://www.ariadne.org/studio/michelli/sgdefault6.html
With best wishes for your own site,
Yours sincerely,
Pippin Michelli, Ph.D
Art History with Michelli
http://www.ariadne.org/studio/michelli
e-mail: michelli@ariadne.org



Subject:
GET TURKS OUT OF EUROPE
Date:
Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:07:18 +0200
From:
"SOTIRIOS T." formion96@hotmail.com
ELLHNES GEIA SAS
While i was searching for information for our national day i found your
site.I must admit that it is one of the most beautiful i've ever seen.
I could not help reading all these crazy things written mainly by turks.
The only comment i would like to make is:KEEP TURKS OUT OF EUROPE.
They've tried once to occupy EUROPE by war but they did not managed to do
so.Now they're trying again using political ways in order to become a member
of the EU. What turkey has to do with europe?
turkey belogs to Asia and that is the place that it should stay at.
Beside that their culture and their ''civilization'' has a clear eastern
sensation totally different from us.
We don't need any other destroyed economies in EU because i don't have the
intention to spend the rest of my life paying my money in order to save
turks. Finally i would like to give a piece of advice to our ''good'' friends
Americans.Be carreful because you may concider the turks now as friends but
when you will stop 'feeding' them only then you will see their true face
which my people saw very well at the past and believe me they are
BARBARIANS!!!

GOD SAVE THE HELLENIES!!



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:08 -0600
From:
"Thomas Georgiades" t.tgeorgiades@verizon.net

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Thomas Georgiades
country=u
suggestions=What, if anything is being done to avenge this atrocity?



Subject:
Map of "Megali Ellada"
Date:
Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:08:48 +0200
From:
"Stelios Tsaousidis" stelios@softrans.de
Congratulations! Great website!
I really like the content and appreciate you provide internet community with this information.
I saw your map of Megali Ellada:
http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav1/photos3.html
Do you have any idea, where I can purchase such a map (or a similar from
1919-1922)? Any address, phone number, website, shop etc?
Thanks in advance
Stelios



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
8 Oct 2002 13:15:27 -0700
From:
"Julian Ellis" julian_ellis@msn.com
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=Julian
country=Canada
suggestions=I love History and especially Greek and Roman history, and that great fusion of
cultures; Christen and classical; that was Byzantium. The modern western world and thus the
Global Community that we are now, was largely built on it.
However, your lack of impartiality and simple boorish bigotry undermines your site.
Your message: GREEK = GOOD, TURK=BAD. Is simplistic and casts doubt on the your integrity of
your writing as a WHOLE. Because of your lack of self criticism and honesty any bystanders will
be prone to dismiss all that you write as dishonest propaganda.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 5 Oct 2002 19:09:08 +0200 (Hora de verano de Europa Occ.)
From:
"Agus" aar@menta.net
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Juan Francisco Adan
country=BARCELONA- SPAIN
suggestions=We visit Sainte Sophie last month and it impressed us. Its Architecture design
with 1500 year old the techniquies are hard to understand.
I will appreciate any information regarding books and publications adressed MAINLY ON ITS
ARCHIRECTURE - CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES, STREESS, LOADS AND SO - in french or italian. I wish
to present it to a friend.
Thanks in advance



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:50:37 +0930 (CST)
From:
"Sam Simos" samsimos@senet.com.au

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Sam
country=Australia
suggestions=I hope one day the great city of Constantinopoli is returned to the rightful
owners TO THE HELLENES



Subject:
Date:
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:48:30 +0300
From:
Ali lker Sekin aliseckin@hotmail.com
We Turcs , we are the members of a great nation that has a big history of conquests,
and we will be as strong as we were, and you poor Hellens
will see the conquest of the whole Grece by Turkish troops



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:31:31 -0400
From:
Sherry Breyette sherry.breyette@fathom.com
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Salo
country=USA
suggestions=Actually webmaster all genocides are horrific and that includes
the turkish massacre of Armenians and Greeks during the first world war.
However, one should not be jealous because Jews have been better at
publicizing the nazi holocaust. In fact your flippant remarks about how you
are tired of hearing about the Holocaust is not only insensitive they are
not actually oconstructive in anyway. No one has the right to tell other
people how they should feel or how they should express their collective
mourning over tragedy. If you want to publicize the tragedy of you Greeks
or Cyprus then state your case without resorting to petty jealousy.



Subject:
Greeks
Date:
Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:50:43 +0300
From:
"Panourgias Panourgias" pilotpan@otenet.gr

My friends and fellow patriots my name is Panourgias Panourgias and I am
the seventh generation of Panourgiades since the hero of 1821.I can olnly
say one thing, in our days we can only try to be strong in our harts about
our country and hope to see it flourish again.The Turkish people are not to
blame it is their stupid goverment that is causing all the trouble.Be aware
that if the Turks get control of the oil sources we might have to prove
again what we are made of and kick them
to the sea again.

Always say it loud I AM GREEK AND I AM PROUD.
Panourgias Panourgias



Subject:
Date:
Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:10:37 +0300
From:
"Prnur UAR" purnur@baskent.edu.tr
I BELIEVE THAT IT IS ALSO TIME FOR YOU TO READ SOME HISTORY AND SEE YOUR OWN TERRIBLE CRIMES.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS MERE PROPOGANDA AND PROVOKATION AGAINST THE TURKISH PEOPLE.
THIS IS AGAINST HUMANISM. WHERE IS THE PEACE AND SOLIDARITY WE ALL BEEN CRAVING FOR?
THIS IS THE END OF THE YEAR 2002 AND YOU PROVE THAT RACISM STILL EXISTS.
HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE WORLD LOVE AND PEACE IN THE FUTURE?
ARE YOU PROVOKING YOUR CHILDREN TO FIGHT OURS? PLEASE HAVE MORE SENSE!



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:19:43 +0300
From:
info@greatoutdoorsports.com
ALEV Tur.Yat.AG
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=Bernhard Brunauer
country=Austria
suggestions=From whom did the greek stole this country and culture. Was
it the Lycian, or Phrygian, or Lydian and, and, and. By the while as the
Turks came over Anadolia it has been ROMAN for some hundreds of years
and greek culture became overran by christian laws.
Showing chauvinism in this way is a punch in the face of hundreds of
greek philosophs like plato and aristophanes. Stop this nonsens and try
to get a citizen of the WORLD.



Subject:
This is how NICE the Turkish people are
Date:
Wed, 21 Aug 2002 02:25:51 +0100
From:
Nicolaos Loukissas el_gitano@hellas.net
TURKEY:THE LAST COLONIAL POWER

Dear Friends,

I want to congratulate you for your humanistic initiatives to support the
oppressed people in the Turkish prisons and ask from the international
power and its proxy dictatorships to respect their Human Rights.
Turkey pretends that is a democracy, while in reality is the most
authoritarian, feudal and anachronistic regime all over the world, being
responsible for the greatest genocides .

Only within the 20th century is responsible of the genocide of many ethic
groups e. g Greeks, Pontiacs, Armenians, Kurdish, Assyrians, Cypriots e. t.c.

It is outraging that alghough historically have been proved all these
genocides and the international community is aware of them, systematically
it is covering them with silence, treating the Turkish regime with the
greatest friendhip and respect . Turkey is violating the Human Rights of
its citicen brutally.

The hard core of the regime is the Turkish Army from which originates
any power. The people always is in the corner and be oppressed from the
police and the army and exploited from a handful plutocratic families.
Democracy in Turkey is non existent .It is the mask to cheat the "silly"
westerners.
Turkey is the most unstable country in the area and distabilizes the Balkan
and the East Mediterranean.

It is exporting its troubles and its domestic mesh to the neighboring
countries either with aggression-as happened in Cyprus and Kurdistan , or
with threats of violenmce -as happens against the Greek Islands in Aegean
Sea- or creating crisis with Iraq, Iran, Syria, or undermining the
situation by supporting fundamentalist groups in Bosnia, Kossovo and
Kaucasus area.

Turkey is the "LAST COLONIAL COUNTRY ALL OVER THE WORLD"and it did not
give freedom yet to its 48 ethnic groups to decide not only for their
selfgovernment or autonomy but even to obtain their basic human rights.
Finally Turkey is an aggressor that keeps the northern Cyprus under the
most barbaric military occupation for 27 years. It is responsible for
ethnic cleansing of 200.000 Greek Cyriot, that are refugees in their own
country, for the assasinations of 1670 Cypriot prisoners of war , for the
immigration of thousand people from Anatolia to the Northern Cyprus and at
the same time deportation of the Turkish Cypriots.
For all these illegitimate crimes Turkey avoided scandalously any
sanctions from the U. N, or any other International Court for 27 years .
Turkey is a heavy insult against the humanity and the 21 st century
civilization. It lended from its ally Israel the technic and the
international support and boroewed it the barbarity, brutality and the market.

That's enough!!!



Subject:
RE: KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:57:24 -0400
From: "dunadan"
Dear Mr. F.,

My name is J. G. Jr. and I live in the United States. We in the west do
not give enough credit to Greece and the hellenic world. Greece is the
founder of so much that is good in the world. It is Greece that gave western
civilization is core beliefs: democracy, law, art, architecture. Even more,
Greece gave us the concept of the individual. Democracy rises first in
Greece because the Greeks were the first to believe that individual men had
political rights. Man was not just a subject of a king or an emperor - each
man had a place in political society just like the Greek Hoplite had a place
in the phalanx of his own city-state.

Byzatium was a hellenized Roman Empire, a Christian empire. It's greatness
is overlooked today unfortunately. It stood as a bastion of Christianity
against the cruel muslims for centuries. The west forgets that if it were
not for the Byzantine Empire, the muslim Jihad would have swept over all
europe.
Greece and the Greek world came crashing down by the cruel, ignorant muslim
Turks. Because the western world was advancing at the time of the turkish
invasion of south-eastern europe, the west has largely forgotted the cruel
yoke that was placed on Greece and the Balkans by the Turks. This is a
mistake. We should once again affirm our solidarity with Greece and the
Christian Blakan peoples instead of the vile muslims - the same terrorists
that destroyed the World Trade Center Towers are the same muslim terrorists
from Albania attacking Kosovo and Macedonia.

It is with great shame that the pervert Bill Clinton was President of the
United States when the Balkans were aflame with war. He is a corrupt
politician who never read a history book in his life and had no idea of what
was actually happening there. We can only hope that Americans and other
europeans wake up in time to kick the muslims out of europe completely.

Yours,
J. G. Jr.



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:20:44 -0400
From:
"dunadan" dunadan@iquest.net
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=J A Gore Jr
country=USA
suggestions=Very interesting site on a topic that is all too often
forgotten - Byzantium. The Byzantine empire stood, first as simply the
eastern Roman empire and later as an entity in its own right, for centuries,
straddling and linking the ancient world and the medeival western world.

The opinions and editorials on the west's support for muslims people in the
balkans are also being proven right as muslims worldwide spread their
religion by the sword, killing opponents and those of other faiths. Indeed,
the ignorance of the USA and the Clinton administration contributed to the
very islamic militants who attacked us on September 11. The muslim
seperatists in Bosnia (and now in Kosovo and Macedonia) supported and gave
assistance to the very Al Queda terrorists that destroyed the WTC. Clearly,
the US should re-think it's support for muslim groups and people in the
Balkans.
Regarding the Turks, it is interesting that while they were certainly able
to militarily conquer Constantinople, they were clearly inferior to the
Greek people of that empire and unable to advance intellectually or
technologically. One can go to Turkey even today and find large segments of
society living in the same stone-age conditions they lived in when they
conquered the Byzantine empire. Where the Greeks were great thinkers and
builders, the Turks could only kill and conquer in the name of the so-called
"Prophet".
Good site! Well done!



Subject:
ellas
Date:
Thu, 8 Aug 2002 21:40:41 +1000
From: "victor trapouzanlis" victor_effy@optusnet.com.au
You are true greek.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
5 Aug 2002 09:50:11 -0700
From:
"Inan Ozdemir" inanki@hotmail.com
form1=Constantinople Suggestions
name=Helin
country=Turkey
suggestions= I think you greeks have no better things to do then accuse Turkey with your hatred words!!!



Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
1 Aug 2002 09:48:07 -0700
From:
"LUCY" sarvendil@hotmail.com
form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=ethnikistes
country=Ellas
suggestions=Here in komotini exists a big wave of antiturkish nationalism.We are ready to slay
all turkish bastards that will stand in our way.We will not spear the innocents.Our sarissa
will run through their hearts.The hate in our hearts is greater than ever.We will take revenge
for 5000000 Ellines that were slaughtered or exislamised by barbarian mogoloids known as
Turks.PALI ME XRONIA ME KAIROUS PALI DIKA MAS THANAI.



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Sun, 28 Jul 2002 06:35:52 +0300
From:
"ioannaz" ioannaz@netzero.net
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=Catherine Z
country=USA
suggestions=I believe a better choice of background music could have been used instead of
garifalo st'afti. Perhaps byzantine music.



Subject:
About your site!
Date:
Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:46:52 +0300
From:
"Dimitris Hatzoudis" Dhatzoudis@in.gr
,
site , http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav1/

. !!!
,

.
,



Subject:
Date:
Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:05:34 +0300
From:
"LICIADAM" LICIADAM@tr.net
I am a Turkish girl and I protest your website, because it doesn't tell the
truth about Turkey! I don't even understand why you have worked so hard to
make a site about Turkey, which doesn't even show the realities... Even I
haven't heard these crimes you tell on your site before, and I live in
Turkey..so there is something wrong don't you think? Because I should know
Turkey better than you...about the man who was killed by a turkish
soldier..I ask you: Will it be different if there was somebody who was
trying to protest Grece? Will a greek soldier let the man go on?? I don't
say that the turkish soldier did the right thing but Turkish people tried so
hard to get this country and people like YOU try to take it back from us!
How many soldier died in this country because of the Kurdish and the
Armenian! How many mothers were upset because of Abdullah Ocalan! But Turkey
still tries to fight against them... You do not know anything about Turkey
because the modern Turkey isn't as you say in your site..yeah, we have too
many problems, political problems especially but I don't think that this is
YOUR problem..I do not really know Grece I just know the special dance...my
grand mother was greek, so I love Grece, but please do not try to make
people think bad about us because nobody hates the Greeks in Turkey....Do
not forget: you can't blame a country because of a few people (think about
Hitler.....)..



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
12 Jul 2002 05:24:59 -0700
From:
El Uluatam ela85_tr@hotmail.com
name=Sabagoyot
country=xxx
suggestions=Vous allez l'avoir dans le cul, Constantinople. Attendez encore 10 petites annes
et je viens. Le grand chef qui vous a foutu dehors en vous jettant par la mer, il aura un
prcurseur. Et je vous assure que vous allez revivre ce sentiment pendant un bon moment... Pour
les mongols qui vivent dans le passe, sachez que maintenant cette ville turque s'appelle
Istanbul.
A bientot.

Wait only 10 little years and I'll be there to put you again in the sea as did the greatest
person ever. I'm gonna teach you how you're gonna get Constantinople in your ass... And for the
stupid persons who still live in the past just know that Constantinople is now a Turkish city
called Istanbul and will always be Turks. See u.



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:04:53 +0200 (MEST)
From:
mato@euronet.nl

name=RESTITUTION
country=
suggestions=To all my Greek cousins out there, keep up the good work! Bolis will soon be yours
again! Your Armenian brothers and sisters will support you all the way through!
To all the filthy brainwashed denialists Turks on this forum, one day soon you'll have to pay
back for all the misery you've caused ever since your blood-thirsty genocidal ancestors raped
our homeland. One day soon it'll be judgement day and trust me, you'll be the first to get
crushed.



Subject:
diaspora
Date:
Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:28:50 +0300
From: "Cenk Kudat" cekodans@hotmail.com
Turkey does rule in the middle east and the Balkans since the end of the Byzantyine Empire
(You remember ended by Turks :)) and fortunately
for us but so unfortunately for you we will soon rule in Europe We just love to Rule what can
I say ... You losers go out and have a life you ass
holes and you better stop annoying Turks with your so fullfill of lies and dishonesties tell
me only 1 time that Turks attack Greeks before the
Greeks attack Turks? You can't tell me right... once in every 50 years you feel self confident
somehow and attack Turks in Cyprus or elsewhere
or attack a Turkish land and the time you loose you call us other names ...So if you don't like
loosing there is a way out for you do not attack
Turks anywhere in the world because everytime that you attack us you loose and sometimes you
loose so badly that leaves deep scars in your
heart so don't attacktry to be friends but when I say friend only say friends you then try
to rape us by protecting and being a home to PKK
terrorists so you will also loose and all the world will see and laugh at you they will say
"Hellenic Maskara" from a Greek News paper...:)) Well
lastly we are sick of teaching you a lesson every 50 years(the anniversary of your self
cofident and also the time for Turks to show you that
your self cofident is only a dream) :))) Go and find another fucker please we are so sick
of you people



Subject:
History
Date:
Fri, 14 Jun 2002 22:21:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:
unun buunn popthegreekcherry@yahoo.com
What are you trying to achieve, what is the purpose of your insults towards USA and the Turks ?
Everybody that has studied considerable amount of history is surely aware of the things that
happened in Asia Minor and the Greek Peninsula between the
Turks, not Mogols, and the Byzantium Empire. How can you claim that a Hellen Holocaust occured in Asia Minor, while the studies show that the casualties on the Turkish side during
the 200 years of constant conflict were much higher than that of
Greeks'. What do you have to say about the Greek invasion of Asia Minor after World War I ?
We know that Turks have done unreasonable things in the past, and we also know what
their status and level of social advancement is right now. But the
Greek nation should be more careful with expressing their views about Turkiye and Cyprus,
taking into consideration the fact that in a possible Turkish invasion of Greece scenerio,
the Western powers will not hesitate to support the Turkish side. Even
without the Western support, it is known that Turkiye's military and economic power
is overwhelmingly superior to Greece's; the Turkish military could easily take
control of Athens in 8 to 12 hours. If you have something solid; a valid
argument, take it to UN or the US Congress, otherwise just keep your mouth shut.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:48:13 +0200 (MEST)
From:
"NAILE ACAR" mehmet.acar@liwest.at
name=Naile Acar
country=Austria
suggestions=I think there some thing they are not objective.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
From:
"Ted Karabinas" teddyt2u@rochester.rr.com
name=tk
country=usa
suggestions=what is a turk, a real turk.......MONGOLIAN!!! FOR YOU SO CALLED TURKS OUT THERE, LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR......IF YOUR EYES ARE SLANTED, YOUR A
TRUE MOGOLIAN, IF MOT YOUR PROBABLY , GREEK, ARMENIAN, ASSYRIAN, KURDISH, ROMAN.....THE TRUTH
HAS ARRIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!KEEP THE FORUMS COMING MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. IT'S TIME TO PAY THE
PIPER!!!!!!!



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Sat, 8 Jun 2002 13:56:37 EDT
From:
Kamaki28@aol.com
Xerete to all. First I would like to congratulate this website for its
accurate information and dedication to TRUTH. It is true, Konstantinoupoli is
the epicenter of Orthodoxy, even today. After 600 years of being literally
surrounded by turkish oppresion, it remains viral and very much ALIVE. The
church of Agia Sophia can be adorned with muslim script and artwork, however
no one can change its structure or foundations- of a central plan Greek
Orthodox Church. Reading the comments and suggestions of Greeks and Turks in
this forum, I see that many Turks are considerate to the Greek culture. I
thank you for that. To those who vainfully attempt to disfame Hellenism, and
call GREEKS of all people "barbarians," I have to say the following: Greece
IS the cradle of Western Civilization. A barbarian was one who did not speak
GREEK. "BAR-BAR" in Greek means "BLAH-BLAH". Turks now profit from Greek
monuments which attract attention and everyone who goes to Turkey sees Greek
achievements, temples, palaces, monuments, CHURCHES TURNED INTO mosques. One
who knows TRUTH can see the Glory of Greece and the Byzantium. You can
change the names of our fallen cities to you. While we studied philosophy,
astronomy, astrology, history, mathematics and science, you studied theft.
While we lived in the palaces, you lived in trees. If we cry, it is because
its new host is unworthy of its stolen glory. To my fellow Greeks I'd like
to give assurance with an old Greek spiritual: "Sopase Kira Despina kai min
polidakrizis.. pali me xronia, me kairous, pali DIKA MAS tha'ne."



Subject:
Umarim bu mektubu okursunuz
Date:
16 May 2002 12:14 GMT
From:
HAKKI50@t-online.de ("HAKKI zkonakli")
TARIHI KARISTIRDIGIMIZ ZAMAN KIMIN YAMYAM KIMIN BARBAR OLDUGU ORTAYA CIKAR: ISTERSENIZ
ISTANBULDAKI RUMLARLA ve yunanistandaki T?RKLERLE
BIR KARSILASMA YAPALIM KIMIN NE "MAL" OLDUGU HEMEN ORTAYA CIKAR: BIZ OKULLARDA VE ZAYIF
OLANLARDAN ISIM VE DIN DEGISTIRMELERI ICIN KIMSEYE BASKI YAPMADIK VE YAPMAYIZ C?NKI
BIZDE OSMANLI TERBIYESI VAR : AMA D?SMANLARIMIZA D?SEMEYI DOSTLARIMIZA SAYGI
VE SEVGIYI IYI BILIRIZ: SAYGILARIMLA:
Hakki


Admire the turkish answers and arguments
Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 22 May 2002 20:53:04 +0200 (added by postmaster@freesurf.ch)
From:
Hakan Karaglle hkaragulle@freesurf.ch
name=turkishreal boys
country=turquie
suggestions=je nique la mre de tous les gars qui ont contribu la ralisation de se site de
mensonges.Ce site consacre istanbul et non canstantinople, vu qu'on vous niqu plusieurs
reprises. Mais la vrit n'est pasa et tu le sais fils de pute. les grecs et les turcs sont
amis. mais ce sont des fils de pute comme toi qui la gache. je te fuck toi et ta clique fils de
putain de ta race pouris. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck



Subject: Turkish Answer
Date:
Tue, 21 May 2002 18:45:31 +0200
From:
"Ufuk Aykac" ufukaykac@hotmail.com
Im turk i think the greece people are bastards and the name of
constantinopel are ISTANBUL we shit your little country and we fucking your
greece TURKEY IS BIGGER THAN GREECE ha ha ha ha



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE suggestions
Date:
Sun, 12 May 2002 16:14:58 +0100 (BST)
From:
ilker celik ilkcelik@yahoo.com
Hello to my greek and turkish friends. i was searchimg
for some information about the detailed history of
istanbul and i ended up reading the words written
without sufficient information in this site. you( the
web master) should give more attention to why it is
captured by turks, what are the crusades, who turks
are. We call it ottoman empire that stopped the
crusades and prevent innocent people from being killed
in crusades, not barbarians. and what is hellenism?
its not greek as it's not turkish or arabic. its true
that Greek people was an indispensable part of
hellenism which is a combination lots of beautiful
cultures from anatolia, egypt, mesopotamia to greece.

what do u expect from this site. I think istanbul is
the most beautiful cities in the world where turkish
greek armenian and jewish people live in peace. do u
want to convert it to kudus where people from
different cultures kill each other. you call us
barbarians however you have barbarian thoughts. you
provacate greek people. You dont have rights to
represent greek people. Cause I m SURE people who
thinks as you do, are a minority in greece. you dont
have right to assemble a greek flag onto turkish flag
and hide the turkish flag. ottoman empire ruled athens
for hundreds of years but we turks call it athens now
as you do. because we respect you and you should
respect us. there is no other way. in addition listen
to the song of the music group called "they might be
giants". the name of the song is "Istanbul (not constantinople)" bye friends!!



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Thu, 2 May 2002 20:31:12 +0300
From:
"Demetri Kolokotronis" dkoloko@ulster.net
name=Demetrios Kolokotronis
country=USA
suggestions=Keep up the good work.



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:47:23 -0700
From:
Jim Shiely jim_shiely@avanticorp.com
name=Jim Shiely
country=USA
suggestions=thanks for your collection of English articles and pictures on Istanbul.
It is a very interesting place I hope to see some day.



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
9 Apr 2002 19:25:32 -0700
From:
aristeidisgeorgoylias@hotmail.com
name=Aristeidis georgoylias
country=ellas
suggestions=I want to say only that this site is one of the most reliable sites i have ever
seen . The byzantine autocratory was greek . the tourks came from center asia and we all know
they were barbarian mongols.If they look like humans some of them is because they are greeks
who were made to change theyr religion.Bravo synellina.



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:55:20 +1100
From:
"tasha vanos" tasha1@hotkey.net.au
name=tasha
country=Australia
suggestions=No suggestions but thank you its worderful



Date:
Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:04:27 -0000
From:
"Nikos Agoropoulos" nagoropoulos@hotmail.com
Synxaritiria gia to website!
Mesa sth vroxh parapliroforishs kai propagandas enantion ths Elladas kai ths istorias ths,
anakalypto kai mia selida pou tolmaei na pei thn alithia.
Th simerinh epoxh theoreisai akraios an ypostirikseis kai provaleis thn istoria ths xoras sou.
De ksero giati symvenei afto, isos eseis mporeite na to eksigisete.
Tha kserete oti yparxoun polla tourkika site me propagandistikh drash. Gia afto to logo h
drash tou site sas einai polh symantikh. Parola afta tha prepei polloi na paroun paradigma
apo esas, mia kai xreiazontai polla paromoia sites gia na apokatastathei h alithia
( an afto einai dynaton).
Kalh synexeia, kai pali synxaritiria!
Enas ellinas foitiths



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:02:12 +0200
From:
"Ignacio Hita" imai@telefonica.net
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Ignacio Hita
country=Spain
suggestions=I think that the name you put for the Bizantine Empire: Hellenic or Greek Empire is
not correct; the bizantine people call themselves "romaioi", romans, and the empire and
emperors considered themselves as Roman Empire; they speak greek, but in roman times the latin
was not spoken in this region of th empire: they always speak greek, but it doesn't mean they
were greek, they were and considered themselves as romans.
I can tell you also that the walls of Constantinople were constructed in the way we recognised
today by Theodosius II.
I can tell you that I liked very much your page: it is very well documentated and the
pictures're very good. Congratulations ! My e-mail is: imai@telefonica.net



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:38:02 +0200
From:
"eli levi" elevi@superonline.com
name=LEVY GUNEY
country=TURKEY
suggestions=JE SUIS UN HISTORIEN, AIMANT AUTANT BEN LA CVLSATION GREQUE.,ET AUSS BEN LA
MEDTERANE ET TOUS CE QUI EN CONCERN L'HUMANTE ET BENSUR LA CVLSATON SAUF DES RACSTES
COMME VOUS ! VOUS DEVEZ
AVOR HONTE DE CE QUE VOUS FATEZ AU NOM DE FARE LA PROPAGANDE, S VOUS CONNASSEZ 'LA HONTE'



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
Thu, 14 Mar 2002 16:24:00 -0500
From: "Sunbul, H. Koray" h.koray.sunbul@ibtco.com
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Istanbul
country=USA
suggestions=Very nice site, full of beatiful pictures. Accually I saw better ones when I was
in Turkey. Problems between greece and turkey are
political. War, that happened at the past was a political issue too. During the war of
course people die and bad things happen.Those are
expectable. Well that was at the past, time is chaning politics too. Now we are in the
business war, trade battle. Like everybody else...



Subject:
CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date:
24 Feb 2002 14:01:24 -0800
From:
mert ifti suker41@hotmail.com

form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Mert Ciftci
country=Turkiye
suggestions=Firstful.i want to say you will pay back for making this site.Turks are not
barbarian as you are.You can't say butcher to our big president.Armenians and Greeks are the
crying babies of the world.We conquer lots of places but you cried so much for stanbul (not
Costantinopolis).We took it from you and won't give you.Of course you are the biggest animals
in the world.
You are so untalented.You took our islands,did we cry?
Take your fucking islands to your fucking ass.Whores.



Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002
From: "Rich Soyack" jsoyack@yahoo.com
Dear Sir/Madam,
Your sight is quite intresting in it's details about the struggle for
greek independence and such. One thing I would like to see, ( I hope that I
am not imprudent ) is a piece of the website dedicated to the ruin that came
about in Constantinople once the Turk took over. Hippodrome, gone, Byzantine
Senate House ( a most wonderful place ) turned into a spa. If not a piece on
this then maybe you could suggest in a link where one, such as I could find.
One bone of contention, you speak of a Kurdish home land, yet you speak
against the Turks for their brutal killings of Armenians. Surely you know
that Sultan Abdul Hamid used Kurdish irregullars to smite whole provinces of
Armenians. You hold the Turk accountable for their actions, why not the
Kurd. True, the Turk used them, but it is not like the Kurds did not profit
from it and carried them out even when officially not called on.
Thank You,
John Anthony Soyack



Subject:
Byzantine furniture
Date:
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:23:07 -0500
From:
Emily von Stuckrad vonstuckrad@ameritech.net
I was wondering if you could email me any pictures of Byzantine
furniture. Thank you for your time!

Emily von Stuckrad



Subject:
your site
Date:
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:36:41 -0800
From:
"chris carman" snap2000@fiberia.com
It's awesome, and I'm using it for a project right now!
I also have one question...how did you make it so others
could access it? mines says I need to create an
index.html, but I don't know how on tripod.



Subject:
Date:
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:06:37 -0600
From:
"Aydin, Emre" eaydin@spss.com

I believe in the brotherhood of Turks and Greeks, nothing more...
there should be no war or hate between us.



Subject:
support
Date:
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:36:18 -0800
From:
"zeus.2" zeus.2@netzero.net
i just wanted to let you know how much i like your site and let you know of my
support for greece and the greek people and how much i hate
the fact that the turks are in anatolia. even though i am not of greek decent (i am american)
i feel that we of european decent share one common
culture, history and origin and that will never change regardless of the places we travel
to and colonize. we all recognize the fact that
greeks were in anatolia thousands of years before the turks arrived and i can only
hope that one day there can be a reconquest similar to spains.
good luck and god bless!


Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
Tue, 15 Jan 2002 01:29:27 +0200
From:
"Touring Turkey" touringturkey@superonline.com

form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=Reso
country=Turkey
suggestions=False information by sick brain



From: Kursat Pekun kursat@church57.freeserve.co.uk
Subject: Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:03:57 -0000
form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=K P
country=U.K
suggestions=you are full of hatred and shit m8



Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:33:37 +0100 (CET)
form1=CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
name=Stephane constantinople@free.fr
country=France
suggestions=Merci beaucoup pour ce site passionnant pour tous les amoureux de
Constantinople (et il y en a beaucoup en Occident...).



Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:49:32 +0000
From:
"jack kidd" cakidds@worldnet.att.net
form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=Tera
country=USA
suggestions=Thank you so much for having such a great and informative website. You helped me so
much on my history report! Keep up the great work!



Subject:
KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
Date:
Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:30:25 -0500
From:
"Kilic, Mehmet" Mkilic@hitt-gc.com
form1=KONSTANTINOUPOLIS Suggestions
name=Mehmet
country=Turkey
suggestions=Why don't you try to be more objective? Why don't you try to be
more friendly. We have put our flag on that castles since 1453 and it is
ISTANBUL, no more Constantinopole. Done is done. Please get over it.



Date:
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:11:09 +0100
From:
"Giusi Pancaldo" giusipancaldo@cheapnet.it
Sono un italiano filelleno e ritengo che Costantinopoli sia greca e debba appartenere
alla Grecia.
Diego.
I am an Italian friend of Greece and retain that Costantinople is a greek town and have
to return to Hellenic people.
Diego.


Subject:
Sigxaritiria
Date:
Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:29:47 +0200
From:
"Greg" edugreg@cytanet.com.cy
gia sas!
edo ke kero psxno mia istoselida pou na provalli ton elliniko politismo ke telika tin vrisko.
apo tin "prodomeni" alla ouxi ipodoulemeni Kipro sas stello ta sigxaritiria ke tous xeretismous mou.
Grigorios M. Papagrigoriou
Y.G. tha ithela mesa apo tin diadiktiaki epikoinionia na gnoriso tous epimelites afton
ton istoselidon.

Efxaristo


Subject:
Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
Date:
24 Oct 2001 15:54:58 -0700
From:
"Ramin Emadi" emadiramin@hotmail.com

form1=Konstantinoupolis Suggestions
name=
country=
suggestions=I live in istanbul but I cant see the greek flags on the
casttles.why? please answer to me?




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