Comments about the site (Nov 1998- Sep 2001)
date:16 Sep 2001
suggestions=Too protecting any Terorist organization in Greece and being
RACIST GREAT HELEN people you must shame yourself. People move as everyone
did. But you have so much hate inside yourself that it burns all Greek
people and make them disappear in earth. You must act more human that you
can get more credit. Turks had war with you and they won. But you can not
accept this. That's why GOD panish always Greek and I think if you carry
this HEAD will panish in future as well.
From:Kenneth S. Laverdure firstname.lastname@example.org
Date:16 Sept 2001
name=Balkan Akincilarindan Battalgazi
country=TURKEY AND USA
suggestions=To the owners of this web page,
First of all, I have to mention that your web site is full of all fakeand wrong information. The serious visitors
of this web site could immediately guess that your web site contains all one-sided news, and history. All of the history
and incidents are strongly misinterprated by you in order to weaken the Turkish image in the world. Turks have always
been objective about their history. So, at this point, if you want your web page appreciated by thousands and more,
you have to change all the fake information into objective and real info based on the offical historical documents.
I also want to say that all of the links that you put about Turkey are the products of your type of people and never
and never reflect the real Turkish image. You can be punished by authorities for displaying these kind of fake images
and web sites. Also, to the visitors of this page who are objective and do not know anything about Turkish history,
go and check many sites originated from official history instutitions of Turkey and USA. These web sites will give you
the true history of Ottoman Sultanate and today's Turkey. Do not believe any information displayed just on one web page,
go and search as many web sites as possible , and at that time I am sure that you will not believe the info on this web page,
and you will share my thoughts and opinions.
Battalgazi torunlarindan USA
From:israfil çalýþkan email@example.com
Subject:ISTANBUL IS NOT CONSTANTINOPLE
Date:14 Sept 2001
your imagination is very strong.I believe that your mind do not work enough.
ISTANBUL IS A OTTOMANS' CITY AND ITS NAME ÝS NOT constantinople ,
its name is ISTANBUL AND IT IS OTTOMANS CITY.
FATIH CALISKAN . students at FATIH UNIVERSITY in ISTANBUL
Sal Erdin serdin@Celestica.com
I visited your web site, and saw the irritating pictures of dead people. I
am so sorry. I hope the humankind will never experience such a teribble
war. Yet, I have a question for you. What was Greek army doing in Turkish
land at that time? Peace keeping?
suggestions=Please tell me about the first music I hear as I come
upon constantinople. It is as haunting as is the Beauty Eternal Greece!
Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:24:38 +1000
suggestions=Keep up the good work
Selwyn Rose wrote:
suggestions=You have one of the best historical sites for Byzantium and Constantinople
on the Internet. Why do you insist on introducing modern political problems.
Conquest has been a fact of life since one man wanted to live in another man's
cave. Why call the Turk's today "savages" for something that happened between Manzikert
1072 and Constantinople 1453? The Greek people have a great history and their ancient
culture lives on today - recognize this and look to the future
Thank you for your message, and your nice words.
I remember you have sent me again some remarks.
Greeks lost their property in
Constantinople in 1955, when turkish mob burned most of the greek stores and houses).
In 1974 Turks invaded Cyprus (Greek island since Homer) commiting terrible atrocities
(1619 prisoners missing).
The worst of all was the genocide in the period 1915-1922, that left about 1 million
dead mainly in Pontus (Black Sea. So
you see it is not far away the problem with Turkey. (turkish system)
If greek population lived in Turkish area as equals like they live in USA, Austarlia,
Canada, Germany, and were protected by
turkish laws and state, would I maintain such a site? If Turkey recognized the crimes
commited to local people, would I
maintain such a site? They never admitted their faults. Now they are constructing monuments
for the genocide of turks by Armenians!!!!!! Does this say anything to you?
Turkish system continues its policy and in our days, but they are well protected by
western umbrella of media. In 1996 they
murdered 2 cypriot protesters who were just 100 meters away of their houses in occupied
area of Cyprus, and in a military
incident in Aegean Sea (Imia tiny isle) they shot down an elicopter (3 dead). They now
want also Aegean Sea.
Would you now want to discuss Israel's matters. Jews insist reminding to us all the time
the genocide commited by Nazis. I
have seen tens of movies with this subject. All the world know only one genocide this
of Jewish people. This is right or wrong?
No one speaks about the genocide of Indians in south and north Amerika.
Why Israel insists with a war against Palestinians. Isn't time to give some lands
to them to have they also a state?
I hope I havn't been tiresome.
(So thinkg all these I haven't resisted and I have written some things about current
Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:42:17 +0200
"Bartu Toptas" firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=Your site just gotta be a joke.You've managed to mix onesided truth
with a whole lot of lies and fictious crap.Congratulations!
If I were you I'd leave that joint alone and deal with reality.
Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:09:50 +0300
"Husnu Murat Erenli" email@example.com
suggestions=Loads of points that can be discussed such as the presence of
Orthodox Christianism till the late 1960's in Istanbul (mentinoned as ashes
KIZIL ELMAS in Turkish means The Red Diamond . Nice Fruit is totally non
sense since KIZIL means RED and APPLE is ELMA rather than ELMAS.
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:22:24 EDT
Always speak the Truth
Zito tin Ellada
Sun, 01 Jul 2001 00:50:17 +0300
"John Papastylianos" firstname.lastname@example.org
CONGRATULATIONS, you have presented an excellent website.
The tragedy of the whole situation is that for every one site we have which
accurately represents Hellenic history and the gross miscarriage of justice
perpetrated by the turks, the turks have a hundred of their own which
publish lies and deceptions. The turkish propoganda machine is a dangerous
weapon which has fooled thousands of people. Visitors to turkey are told
that the Ayia Sophia is turkish, the city of Ephesus is turkish. They
hijack our history accuse us of genocide, sometimes they even claim that
Alexander the Great is a turk. It's ridiculous but gullable tourists
believe these lies. Keep up the good work we need more people like you who
continue to fight for the truth.
Thank you for an excellent site you are a king.
you are a legend
thanato stous tourkous
"jan olsen" barca @ olivant.fo
suggestions=TOTTALUY AGREE. pleas continue the good work. :)
Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:41:20 -0400 (EDT)
email@example.com (Snarkey Parker)
suggestions=Your site is wonderful to behold and feel privilaged every time I visit.
Thank You So Much.
Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:22:27 +0300
You want the truth, you want documents, you will get it. I really want to be
sure that you will pass my answer to your forum page so it can reach to all
of you. You accuse the Turkish system come on, see the reality about the
Greeks. Its just a small web site but its enough to show the reality in
Cyprus. You people are great in seeing the events from your side but what
about the reality of Turks in Cyprus. Now you face the reality and I am sure
you wont like it. Its easy to send photographs, you will see some more then.
Just look at the web site below:
>Subject: Stolen properties
>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:45:18 +0300
>How do you feel, when you have stolen other's property, land, homes,
>Don't you have problems with your conscience?
>How do you feel when you have exterminated all the local people who
>lived there, long ago before you?
>I wouldn't feel good to steal someother's property... Here when somebody
>steals a house goes to jail.
>This flag drips with the blood of the local people (Armenians, Greeks,
>Syrians, Kurds) who lived in Mikra
>Asia-Pontus-Kappadokia-Armenia-Kurdistan and their bones lie in the
>ground of their father's land.
It feels G R E A T ! ! ! ! !
Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:30:04 +0200 (IST)
suggestions=You have - what on the face of it - could be a most excellent historical cultural
site. Why on God's green earth do you have to introduce the most appalling display of
sectarian politics is completely beyond me! And what in heaven's name is the connection
between your site and my country Israel and how dare you equate the Jewish with Nazis!!!!
Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:39:33 +0300
Your web site insults 70 million Turkish people. The content of the page is full of lies,
disinformation and is hateful, penetrating racism and terrorism.
We all value the freedom of expression, the right to free speech, but not at the
expense of others.
We protest you and ask you to remove this unreal and ignorant information from your page.
Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:10:17 -0500 (CDT)
suggestions=Turkish people (animals) are the true SCUM of this EARTH!
Youre Day will come....for the CRIMES that you all committed. And for the
Scums Mothers and siblings when they cry for you I will have coffe and cake
for my friends to see the punishment that you TURKS get without MERCY!!............
and I will sing and dance.
suggestions=hopping you could answer my question of why the double headed eagle like
that one on your home page is seen in icons and flags in greek orthodox churches and if you
could refer me to any valuable sites that have photos and infomation on this symbol.Thank
you for your time. (your site has also been very informative and well presented)
21 May 2001 08:50:46 -0700
suggestions=Leave it to the lord jesus christ to avenge the blood of the innocent
christian greeks and Armenians.After all the god of the muslims is the devil himself.
Prophet muhammad was the messenger of satan. That is why they raped, murdered and robbed
christians, hindus and by the others by the millions through the ages.
Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:43:39 +0300
"HAKAN GURUNEY" firstname.lastname@example.org
i am preparing a book about tenedos and imbros islands.
where are found north-east of aegean sea, near dardanelles strait and gallipoli,
between Turkey and Greece and belong to Turkey.
if you have any document , such as : postage stamp, revenue stamp, military postmark,
postal stationary, postal history, postcards, stamp,
vignette, label, cover, seal, map, letter, coin, real photo, books, etc., everykind
of visual objects that interest with this islands, I CAY BUY IT.
You can see like these words on ... :
1 - For postal history : both of these islands used two different stamps in Ottoman
Turkish Language, others : TENEDOS, BOZDJA (ADA),
BOZDJA-ADA, IMBROS (ILE), IMBROS,
2 - For coinage history : TE - TENE - TENEDIAN - IMBROS
if you get anything , please inform me.
istanbul - turkey
members : ISFILA, OPAL.
Tue, 1 May 2001 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
to whom it may concern, I am doing a project for my history class on
Constantinople, and i have found a very interesting collection in your website.
The only thing that i really need to find out is some information on the author of the
site if it has one and i want to know about his or her education and etc...
It is very important for me to hand this information
to my teacher for this project
please contact me asap.
Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:36:31 +0200 (added by email@example.com)
suggestions=This is not a real suggestion, just a comment. I've seen your site for
the first time, and I must confess I would have never hoped to find something like this.
I admit, I'm sorry I wasn't born "stin ellada" (in greece), (yet I'm still proud to be
Italian), but my unhappiness is filled by watching that there are still some people who
remember to the world the deeds of the Eastern Empire, which culture, glory and power
oscurated for long the barbarian west. I just wanted to congratulate with you for the site,
(reall, there are very few things I don't agree to), and wish you the greatest attention
from the world. If you will ever want to reply, I would be happy of that.
Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:46:25 -0400 (EDT)
"Frank Fowlkes" firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=Very interesting site. I went to Greece and Turkey last Summer and since
have become an avid reader of Byzantine history. I am fairly knowledgable in the study
of Western civilization and I have come to the conclusion that the Eastern Roman Empire
has been overlooked in its impotance to the developement of the modern world we know today.
I guess this is because most writers of Western history tend to come from Western Europe.
The importance of Constantinople as a buffer against a Islamic invasion of Europe cannot
be overstated. Thanks for keeping up this site.I am interested in finding a print of
Allan Sorrells painting of Constantinople during the 11th century. If anyone knows where i
can find one please post on this board.
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:26:43 -0000
"gulen cevik" email@example.com
At 2.10 a.m. on Saturday, December 21, 1963, two cars carrying ten Turkish
Cypriots, six men and four women, drove through the Greek quarter of
Nicosia, the Cyprus capital, heading for their homes in the Turkish quarter.
They were returning from dinner in Kyrenia, the resort on the northern
coast. They had eaten well, they were happy, and they were almost at their
They were actually inside the Turkish area when a group of armed Greek
Cypriot civilians suddenly appeared in the headlights of the leading car and
signaled it to stop. Both cars halted. The gunmen ordered everyone out of
the cars. The ten obeyed, puzzled. A crowd of Turks from the overlooking
houses appeared, awakened by the shouts.
As though on cue, a convoy of cars loaded with uniformed Greek Cypriot
policemen, brandishing Sterling machineguns outside the open car windows,
turned a corner ahead and roared up the street towards them. The civilian
gunmen quickly stepped aw from the cars.
The first burst of machinegun fire almost cut in two Zeki Halil Karabuluk,
25, married with three children, and Jemaliyeh Emir, 32, an attractive
divorcee with a 12 year-old daughter.
Three of the Turkish bystanders, caught in the savage fire, fell wounded to
the ground. The crowd fled, screaming. The civilian gunmen leapt into the
police cars. The cars drove off.
I was in a restaurant just a few hundred yards away when those first shots
echoed across the ancient walled city. I was not aware that they, and the
shots that were to follow, would be heard around the world.
Genocide -the extermination of the Turks of Cyprus -had begun.
Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:34:12 EDT
tha ithela na sas sugxaro gia to endiaferon site,
einai uliko pou exei anagki o ellinismos
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:11:14 +0300
"zafer erturan" firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=c' est une honte t' accuser le peuple turcs car vous croyez que
les armeniens etr grecs ne tuaient pas c'etait une guerre
Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:54:10 -0700
I was told by a friend about your website, but she was unable to send it to me.
Will you please send it to me at
email@example.com . She said it is wonderful. I was born in Greece and I
am very intrested in anything that has to do with it. Thank you very much, Irene George
Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:29:14 +0200
Simera eida tin selidasas kata tixin kai prepei na po oti einai poli oraio..to monon einai
oti i germaniki metafrasi einai poli lanthasmeni.
An epithimeite..tha ftiaxo mia kaliteri.
Polla xairetismata apo tin Germania!
Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:46:57 EST
Please sent me the greek poem of Saint's Sophias..Thank you !!!
Me patriotikous heretismous,
Roula Millas, from Atlanta..
Great Hellas map
Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:09:56 -0500
I am from America (particularly the Southeastern United States). My goal
in life is to take Constantinople back for Greece. I am ready to fight for it,
and to die for it. After having studied Constantinople and the Byzantine
empire extensively, I am currently attending the University of Georgia with the
intention of working for the United States Department of State. It is my
undying wish that Constantinople be remanded to Greek hands, as it was for the
previous 22 centuries before the so called "conquest" by the Ottoman Turks on
29 May, 1453. I also support a Greek state that includes Thrace (with
Constantinople), and the better half of Eastern Europe (basically southern
Wallachia, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, and parts of Bulgaria). Seeing as how
Constantinople is no longer regarded by the Turkish state as the capital
(coupled with the weakening of the Turkish state, internationally), this is a
very realistic goal. I worship in the Byzantine Greek Orthodox Church, and I
abhore the atrocities committed by the so called "democratic" Turkish state
unto the Greeks of Asia Minor and Thrace, and as well, Turkey wide. All I know
to tell you beside this is that I am an avid collector of Byzantine relicsv
(particularly coins, and crosses), as well as ancient maps of Illyria, Moesia,
Thrace, and especially Constantinople and Chrysopolis, that show the (real)
Greek names. If this description of myself does not suffice, please feel free
to write back, as I am always interested in input from people who share my
I, in service, remain yours,
Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:06:07 +1100
TOM KAZAS firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=well done! I particularly enjoyed the focus on the hellenic perspective.
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:12:29 EST
suggestions=Nationalism is divisory. Your provacation must have been
supported by those who benefit from it. We all know the magnitude of
bloodshed by Greeks in Anatolia.You seem to be stricken with megalo-idea.
Firts you need to resolve the injustices which take place in Greece
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:18:37 +0200 (EET)
suggestions=Thank you for the very interesting reminder of the Greek Revolution.
Nevertheless I would suggest an attentive reading of your french text that needs some
grammatical and orthographical amendations.
Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:30:26 +0200 (EET)
suggestions=What a distortion of historical facts !...
Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:18:50 +0200
ý became turk.
ý advise u to become as soon as possible volontarily otherwise u will
be one by force.
remember sooner or later u will own a turkish paasport.
last decade u were in anotolia where there are none of u.
next decade u will not be there in greece.
u are occupying turkic lands and u will be panished as your ancestors
had been done.
u are created to serve TURKS.
remember u can only satisfy your dreams in the internet.
we never forget that...
Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:26:21 -0800 (PST)
paolo ochangco email@example.com
very true! one of these days (in the distant future,
actually,) I think that the greeks will retake the
city. However, I think that you Greeks should improve
your economy first, build up an efficient
power-projecting army and navy . . . and who knows? By
GOd's grace, you will reconquer the city that by right
and ancestry is truly, and only, yours. I am a
Catholic but I still empathize with you. Shame on the
Turks who continue to oppress the Greeks in
Constantinople. Why do they prohibit the construction
of Greek monasteries? Of schools? Why do they pillage
and rape the heirs of the city? Why do they dissallow
property of the Greeks to be inherited by their
children? Why? It is because they are scared. It is
because THEY THEMSELES KNOW THAT THEY ARE SQUATTERS IN
Greek land. THEY KNOW THAT YOU GREEKS WILL RETAKE
CONSTANTINOPLE. To all of you good luck and God Bless.
DEUS NOBISCUM KYRIE ELEISON!
(Empreror Maurice's Cataphract war cry)
Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:29:09 -0500 (GMT)
"Andre Dumoulin" firstname.lastname@example.org
country=Belgium ( Panama)
suggestions=I love your website, but the French version contains lot of mistakes:
If you sent me the texts, I can review and improve your translations.
THANK YOU so much for the translation in french language
Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:28:22 EST
I like the information that you have! It is great. I cannot copy though!
Could you down load some of these pictures and information to me? I would
like to use it for the History class at the Greek School
Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:02:22 -0500
"Nicholas Vlachopoulos" email@example.com
suggestions=I read the comments of the Turk that now lives in the US. I believe that
there has to be a middle ground and that history dictates that this "harmony" of the Turk
people (and Islamic people) came at a price. The price was blood. Not only the blood of
the Greeks but the blood of many peoples. In history so often one sides heros are
another's villan. So, to say that history is wrong to portray the Turks this way would
be wrong. There's no need to shut down the site. It is historically accurate.
This person is the one that is passing out hate by comments such as "I close down the site".
I have many Turkish friends (and I am Greek) as well as many of my Greek friends and
family have many Turkish friends. Greece's greatest composer Mikis Theodorakis has been
lobbying for years for better relations between Greeks and Turks. There are web-sites
which promote friendship between our two countries. We should want peace. Greek schools
do promote understanding. Greece's literacy rate is much greater than Turkey's.
So please, do not spread the hate. There are better ways in trying to get your point across.
Perhaps state and cite historical accuracies from the Turk's perspective. Because
throughout the years, propaganda grows (on both sides) and the reality gets clouded.
Fanatisism in religion, distorted history, propaganda etc. lead to distrust and hatred.
We need to work together to promote harmony. Everyone has a story. The revolution of
1821 was great as people we finally FREE!!!!! People are burning themselves in Turkey's
prisons because of continued human rights abuses. What about the Kurds? They are still
waiting for their revolution. Freedom is everybodies right....
Just some thoughts...
Doxa tin Elladitsa Mas!
Tue, 6 Feb 2001 03:20:15 +0200 (EET)
suggestions=A very good page. i could not work out if it was biased. I want to know
when the term "Greece" "Greek" "Hellenic" gained currency.
Also you speak eloquently of the atrocities of the Turks and Independence for the Kurds.
What about turning you mind to the atrocities of your people against the Macedonian National
Minority living under greek control. I trust you will make certain adjustments if you
are a seeker of the truth. Otherwise you page is nothing but an illusion.
Eventually when the truth surfaces you will look a little silly. Now is the time to
repent and atone for your lack of academic rigour. Kind regards George
Sun, 04 Feb 2001 21:40:16 -0500 (EST)
Mehmet Aydin Aydin625@Optonline.net
suggestions=As a turk living in the United States, I see once more how much hate,
how much racism and how much foolishness is present in you, greek people.. How dare
you call Mustafa Kemal Ataturk a "butcher" ?? who the hell do you think you are..
I wonder if this is what they really teach in your public schools in Greece. Ataturk
was a hero.. Ataturk brought peace between us.. Ataturk was the one, who taught the world
not to live in racsim. Let me tell you, in Turkey they teach children not to hate greeks.
Why? because of people of like you.. who don't know anything about history. They ask us
to be like real neighbors to you greeks.. But the result? you guys keep pushing it..
You guys still burn Turkish flags and still hang up posters in your country which is
totally against and insulting to Turkey. you really want a suggestion for this site..
Let me tell you.. go construct it again. learn some history.. think. and do it over.
Or I will simply shut it down my self. And you could be sure about that one.
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:24:13 -0600 (CST)
"Michael Haniotakis" firstname.lastname@example.org
name=Michael Anthony Haniotakis
suggestions=Makes me sick to see what great misfortune the best people on earth,
(Hellenies)have gone through. The city will be liberated someday and return to being Greek!
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:57:28 +0200
"Chatzikyriakos Konstantinos" email@example.com
Onomazomai Konstantinos N. Hatzikyriakos kai prosfata eftiaxa ena site gia tin istoriki
poli tis Smyrnis kai ti Mikrasiatiki Katastrofi kata ti periodo tou 1922. Gia to logo
auto tha sa eimoun eugnomon an mporousate na dimiourgisete ena link sto site sas
pou na parapembei stin diki mou istioselida, kathos pisteuo oti to site sas kathos kai
to diko mou exoun ena koino skopo: Na apodeixoun to pragmatiko prosopo tis Tourkias kata
tous aiones kathos kai na apokatastisoun tin Istoriki alithia. Kai kati teleutaio
alla poli simantiko: Na min xexastoun pote autoi oi martirikoi topoi alla antitetos
na anazopirosoume tin elpida tis epistrofis! Fisika sas iposxomai oti to idio tha kano
kai go gia ti diki sas istioselida.
Sas euxaristo ek ton proteron.
P.S. To URL einai: http://smyrni.s5.com/memories.htm
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:20:42 -0500
Susan Cohen flaviaR@his.com
suggestions=Israel wouldn't be supporting Turkey if she didn't
need all the allies she could get. If you want her to dump Turkey, support her yourself.
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:26:45 -0500 (EST)
"H. N. Primbas" firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=change the letter color so be printed better.
they come out yellow.
Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:23:16 -0600
email@example.com (Emrah Orhun)
let me make a Japanese version of your page
Thu, 7 Dec 2000 19:42:12 +0900
I am a university student in Japan, and studying about Byzantine Empire. On studying Byzantine,
I had a big question; "Why are Turks still ruling the capital of the Byzantine world?
Ottoman Empire have already vanished,
and Turks have to disappear from Constantinople
and Anatolia where are the territory of Greeks, but why?"
I began to think about the recovering of Constantinople.
A second question appeared. By whom Constantinople
will be recovered?
Russians call themselves the successors of Byzantine Empire, but Byzantine Empire was not a
Slav empire at all. At last, I concluded that nobody is a true successor of Byzantine who think
Constantinople must be released by Turks. After several months, I had an opportunity to study
about the history of modern Greece. I was shocked because I
found out that modern Greeks thought about the recovering of Constantinople(Megali Idea).
I was interested in Greeks and researched more about them. Finally, I reached your page
that make me be sure that present Greeks are the real rulers of Constantinople.
Recently, more and more Japanese are interested in the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
Many Japanese travel to Greece every year, but it is true that most of them don't
know about true Greece and Hellenism in the middle age.
To let more Japanese know about the true rulers of Constantinople and history of
glory Byzantine Empire, the Japanese version of your page are needed.
If there is a Japanese version, your thoughts will spread all over Japan.
I'd like to translate your page into Japanese and make a Japanese version of your page.
Please, let me do. I'd like your permission.
I'm waiting for your good response.
name=Hans Christian Brinkmann
suggestions=I appreciate your enthusiasm for Byzantium.Your work is a nice add-on to Sir
Runciman`s history of the crusades. I was really amused, reading all the remarks from the
Turkish visitors. I think your site would still be more successful if you avoided the pitfalls of today`s politics.
Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:54:00 +0900
I agree with your opinion$B!!(B
Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:15:32 -0700
"Robert Fulton" firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=Label your slides please. They are very interesting, I got here because I
have been reading about the events of the First World War in NW Persia (Iran) and
in John Keegan's book on the First World War he mentions "Manzikert" SO I entered it on
a search and reached your interesting site. Thanks for
the slide show. Myrtle Fulton
A message from a Barbarian(!)
Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:57:17 +0200
"Bulent Guner" email@example.com
I am interested in your website http://fstav.tripod.com/english.html nowadays.
By all accounts, it is single-sided. I
believe in that people must know their history to predict the future.
Since we have been living as neighbours for
929 years, at least we should be tolerant.
Anyway, I hope to meet you one day for discussion.
Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:26:09 -0700
"Nick Tripolitis" firstname.lastname@example.org
name=Minnie Katerlis Tripolitis
suggestions=Thank you for keeping the memory alive !
Sun, 15 Oct 2000 02:37:58 +0300
Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:32:29 +0100
Khatchik Panos Khatchik@cwcom.net
suggestions=Although your site has valid points, the fact that you use the term 'Byzantine'
shows that we can not trust your site for its validity.
'Byzantium' is a West-European (Frankish) lie invented to defame the real Roman Empire
of New Rome and to make the Frankish Empire of Charlemagne the sole 'Roman Empire'.
Despite your good information, the fact that you call your site 'Byzantium' shows that
I as a descendant from Romaio can not acept this site as representative of our cause.
Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:14:41 EDT
hey, I was viewing wonderful website trying to find things for my shool
report. I was sad to find very little on emporer Justinian.
23 Sep 2000 07:08:25 -0700
"prodromos ioannidis" email@example.com
suggestions=bravo...poli exoun tis idies esthesis...ma ap tin kadia,prepi na ftasoune
stin glossa.those poor people.i'm in shock!i am well versed with the history,
seeing the photo's was distressing.my background is from adana + tarsus in cilicia.
could you help me with any information of any description?
my address is firstname.lastname@example.org
Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:19:59 +0300
"AZIZ UCANTEKIN" email@example.com
suggestions=It is not fair to write that things about Turkey. There will be no benefits
for nobody. We are sharing same world. It is better to be friend.
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:33:40 +0300
SEMUP DENÝZCÝLÝK firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=u gay made me smile. firstly http://fstav.tripod.com/const1.jpg on this page a
castle seen and greek flag. well that castle is so close to my home and ý have never seen
there is a greek flag before . ý don't behave as a rasit and l wont. ý want u to
think about history and what was going on in the past.
u call barbar /barbaric to define turks ý cant imagine how their behaviors are .
but it is really strange how we think that word (barbar).common idea they just fight and
eat or having sex. and they destroy other nation. and put their own culture in the country
where they got.
but in this situation lets look in today s europe part
of yugoslavia/ bosnia / albenia /makedonia / greece
and north africa Egypt, libya, algeria, and morocco and asia continent armenia ,
gorgia ýraq ,suria bla bla bla
....these territories belonged to ottomans. that's the truth. if turks had been barbarian
all these nation would have spoken turkish and been moslem -and belive me- turks could have
destroyed easily. today as u know in africa mostly english, french are spoken language
and xristianty is common. even tough africans had polytheism , then they forced to be
xristian (mostly protestant ,catholic) and speak english to forget their custom, tradition,
belief whatever. Take whole africa , australia , america , all of the people who live in
these continents have lost their culture ,languages ,religion ,belief because the European
did want it. They had left nothing.
......if still u still think that ottoman empire is barbaric and didnt have toleration
and hate other nation ý give u some samples....mother of sultans (the ottoman rulers)
are mostly non-turks. The most important grand vizier (sadrazam sokullu mehmet pasha)
originally wasn't turk but he could be became grand vizier if he is efficient and indeed
he was. Orthodox patriarchate has been still in this city (where the capital city of the
barbarians :)))) irocially )
People, who had lived their terrorories (where turks had during the ottoman era )still
has got their own cultural features. Has a greek forgotten his/her language and ý do not
think they had been forced too.
TOLERATIN !!!!! think about it . can it live with barbarians.
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:55:51 +0800 (MYT)
subject: CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
suggestions=listen dear greeks and turks alike,
i do not side anybody based on race, but a fact is a fact, your site is racist and biased,
but that does not mean that i dispute the historical facts and sources related to it.
my first question to you dear greek,
are you really a true belever in the teachings of jesus that you speak so badly of all
peoples who do not share your race and religion? this is not christianity, this is
paganic-ethnocentricity! the ottoman empire was successful as a result of greek orthodox
contribution just as the armenians,slavs and other races did,simply put, they could not have
survived 600+ years, if they did so as your site tries to put it bluntly!
about the pontus, you can find till today, many villages in which the muslim inhabitants still
speak greek! and no, they were not forced to convert, for the 1 million turkish speaking
greek orthodox in anatolia in 1923,testify to this simple fact! who to blame?
the nationalist un-Islamic mustafa kemal pasha! and could you blame him for kicking
the "turkic"-greeks out? no! especially after the failure of your greek
megali idea. all this harping about the greatness of greek culture belongs to the pages
of history books!
sorry, greek, you are at the backwaters of 'europe',
whose name in itself can be traced back to the story of EUROPA in greek MYTHOLOGY! get it?
as for the turk, i as a muslim apologise for any shortcomings of this very nationalistic people,
associated due to their involvement in islamic history
but they at their height, did their part well greek.
if the greek really believes in democracy as preached by the greek philosophers,
then due rights must be given to MUSLIMS in Thrace and Cyprus, and i support them not as
turks but as muslims! in my final remark, it must be stated that after reading the forum,
the turk is more rational than the greek,but run under a site conducted by a greek! ironic?
just like history-
historia magistra est!
Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:35:22 -0400
"igor stevic" email@example.com
Hi, I am very imprest with Your Web page and as Yugoslavian I was reading a lots about Byzant
The reason why I am writing You is the following.I am studing the webpage design and for my own
site I am looking for
background picture that has something common with Byzant Empire.
When I saw Your background picture I sad that is 100 %
that what I am looking for.Now is the question "Is it asked to much if You could send
me only plain photo as jpg.format without any others grafics and writings on it?"
If it is too ofended ,my apologies and forget about it,but If not I would appreciate
if You could do that for me.
Tue, 23 May 2000 02:43:40 EDT
I suggest that you have instructions at the onset tlling people where to
click to go further into the site. I was at your site many times but never
got past the front page. Then it dawned on me to CLICK. on the Contantinople.
I visited Hagia Sophia in 1970 and chanted ,"Soso kyrie ton Laon Sou." and
was surrunded by Turkish police but when they found I was greek American
,they gave me a tour of the church insrad of sending me to jail, Is there or
was there a law against chanting Byzantine hymns? George J. Mougios
PS I also submitted your form and then this e-mail appeared so you may be
getting this twice.
Fri, 19 May 2000 00:59:40 +0300 (EET DST)
suggestions=what a awesame page É loved it
name= MUHAMMED RASHID- firstname.lastname@example.org
08 May 2000
suggestions=NETTEKI EN APTAL SAYFA. BUNU YAZANLAR YA TARIH BILMIYOR YA DA YALANCILAR.
Sat, 06 May 2000 18:29:25 +0200
Charles Subiger email@example.com
suggestions=Why not print lists of greek emperors linked with Byzanzium ;
i refer to those of Trebizond, The despots of Morea & Epirus
Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:59:47 +0300 (EET DST)
country=USA/Yugoslavia & UK
suggestions=Unlike Kosovo nobody realy cares about the plight of the
true Cypriots as there had been no blood spilt - or that the world is aware.
It is a pity that blood is what it takes.
Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:41:32 +1200
Mark Schwarz Mark.Schwarz@met.co.nz
History is fascinating - that of the region from Greece and surrounding
areas I find particularly rich (I have always had an empathy with ancient
Greece). But isn't it frightenning how people (or I should say
civilisation in general) doesn't learn from it??
This site is great for it's historical content and the promotion of
regional history - but it does nothing to help people come to terms with
what may have happenned in the past or to understand each other better.
Obviously you and many other Greeks, and Kurds, are angry with what has
happenned in your history - I agree that the Mongol invasions and many
subsequent activities of the Turks were rather barbaric.
I have spent some time in Greece - I was in love with the place, and wept
at the foot of Mystras with the thought of the magnificent loss when
Byzantium fell - but I wish to go to Turkey next. I am sure they have
similar stories, and think of Alexander the Great for one, as a demonic
oppressor also. That's the trouble with history - it never gives answers.
There has always been too much history for revenge to make any sense. The
only way to make anything better for anybody is to move forward and think
of how to make things better - for yourself AND 'them'.
Be proud of your history and love the richness of the past - but acknowlege
the past of your neighbours as well, parakalo.
Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:41:58 -0500
Elizabeth Brooks firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=I think that this is a great site. It really helped me get pictures for my project.
Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:22:21 +0100
"Praktikant, SG2" email@example.com
epitelus evkeria gia olo ton kosmo na mathi ti esti turkos!
From: "Kouzoumis George" firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:17:46 +1100
suggestions=Brilliant piece of work. It's about time someone told the rest
of the world the barabaric nature of our "fellow Turks". This is the genre I
needed for my novel on the Fall of Constantinople. I want to direct it to a
younger audience, and I hope you don't mind if I adopt some of your
descriptive phrases for my novel. It hits where it hurts. I was brought to
tears.....our beloved city, we mourn your misfortune. Regards Katrina
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:27:45 +0000
"WENDY JULIAN" email@example.com
suggestions=Very Good web site. Only recently have I discovered the history of the
Eastern Roman Empire as I would rather call it. The role played by the Empire in protecting
the rest of Europe from invasion is almost unknown. If a teacher bothers to speak of that
era of history at all he will tell about the Moslem invasion of France!
The fact that powerful life and death struggles were going on in Asia Minor is not told.
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:40:02 -0500
Érol Lalé firstname.lastname@example.org
suggestions=JE TROUVE QU'IL EST COMPLÉTEMENT INADMISSIBLE DE LA PART DE
PERSONNE QUI NE SAVENT MÊME PAS éCRIRE CORRECTEMENT LE FRANÇAIS, D'ÉMETTRE
DES REMARQUES ET DES DIFFAMMATIONS SEMBLABLES CONTRE UN PAYS OU UN PEUPLE
COMME LA TURQUIE.LE MONDE ACTUELLE EST COMPLETEMENT IPOCRITE ET IGNORANTS,
CAR IL FAUT BIEN SE RAPPELLER DANS L'HISTOIRE QUE CE QUE LES GENS
ACTUELLEMENT APPELLE DE MASSACRE D'ARMÉNIEN, N'ÉTAIT À L'ÉPOQUE QU'UNE
AUTO-DÉFENSE CONTRE UN PEUPLE AYANT OPTENUE UN ASILE LORSQUE D'AUTRE PAYS
LES REJETÉ ET SE SONT RETOURNÉES CONTRE LE PEUPLE TURQUE LORSQUE CES
DERNIERS ÉTAIENT EN PLEINES GUERRE ET ONT ENTAMÉ UN MASSACRE DU PEUPLE TURC
DANS LES VILLAGES SACHANT QUE LES HOMMES ÉTAIENT EN GUERRE CONTRE DES PAYS
EXTERNE. IL EST TOUT À FAIT NORMALE QU'UN PEUPLE COMME LA TURQUIE QUI À
CETTE ÉPOQUE SE BATTAIENT POUR SAUVEGARDER SON PAYS MASSACRE À SON TOUR DES
IPPOCRITES ET VIRUS INTERNE.
EN CE QUI CONCERNE LES COMBATS DES TURQUES AVEC LES KURD, JE PENSE QU'AUCUNS
PÂYS AU MONDE N'À ET N'ACCEPTERAS AUTANT DE RÉFUGIÉ DANS SON PAY, SACHANT
QUE LA TURQUIE À ELLE OUVERT CES PORTES À CES GENS QUI ÉTAIENT MASSACRÉ ET
TUÉ PAR LES IRAKIENS, IRANIENS ET SYRIENS QUI FAISAIENT DES TEST CHIMIQUES
SUR EUX. LA TURQUIE A NON SEULEMENT OUVERT CES PORTES À CES ''BATTARD'' MES
EN PLUS LEURS DONNÉE LA POSSIBILITÉ DE S'INSTRUIRE DE GRANDIR ET VIVRE EN
PAIX, BEAUCOUPS DE KURDES SONT DEVENUES DES GENS IMPORTANTS DANS LA VIE DE
TOUT LES JOURS EN TURQUIE, CERTAINS SONT DES MEDECINS, D'AUTRES DES AVOCATS,
D'AUTRES DES ARTISTES (EX: IBRAHIM TATLISES), D'AUTRES DES HAOMMES
POLITIQUES (EX: OZAL, L'ANCIEN PRÉSIDENT).
ALORS S.V.P, AVANT D'éCRIRE N'IMPORTE QUOI, ASSOIYEZ VOUS ET PENSEZ Y PLUS,
RAPPELLER VOUS DE CE QUI CES VRAIMENT PASSÉ, NE CROIYEZ PAS CE QUE DES
IGNORANTS VOUS RACONTES. VOUS POUVEZ MÊME LIRE LES LIVRES D'HISTOIRE QUI EUX
RACONTENT BIEN CE QUI CES PASSÉ.
REMÉMOREZ VOUS AUSSI CE QUE LES FRANÇAIS ONT FAIT AUX GENS DE COULEURS, CE
QUE LES EUROPÉENS ONT FAIT AVEC LES COLONISATIONS, CE QUE LES ALLEMANTS ONT
FAIT AVEC LES JUIFS, CE QUE LES AMÉRICAINS ONT FAIT AVEC LES VIETNAMIENS ET
MAIS ARRÉTER DE DIRE N'IMPORTE QUOI ET SURTOUT DES MENSONGE.
Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:59:50 +0100
Tassos Adonis email@example.com
suggestions=Mpika sto site sou gia na dw ti stoixeia exeis probalei oso afora to Buzantio. ( me endiaferei i astunomia kai kathe eidous astunomiki arxi i drastiriotita tis epoxis ekeinis), kai pira tin galliki version. Eida ta polla lathi pou iparxoun, toso stin metafrasi oso kai sta ekfrastika. Ekei tha mporousa na se boithisw. Steile tis selides sou sto firstname.lastname@example.org tha sou tis diorthwsw kai tha sou tis ksanasteilw gia na tis peraseis sto geocities. kali pantws i prospatheia, an kai sou
leipoun polla stoixeia istorika. min parapefteis ston ethnikismo.
Efxaristw POLU gia tin politimi boithia stin metafrasi twn gallikwn keimenwn
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:33:59 EST
I need to know some historical information re constantinople and the jewish
Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:12:42 EST
Your website is really beautiful! I found it par hazzard, searching for
"Constantinople" Thank you. Until recently I knew nothing about Byzantium.
One day last month in New York at a used book sale, I found something by an
"Anna Comnenna" - the story of her father the Emperor Alexius. I bought it,
read it, and am now obsessed with the "Byzantine" - really the Roman Empire
of the East.
Merci, Michael of Brooklyn
Mon, 6 Dec 1999 03:53:36 +0200 (EET)
"Christos Karathodoros" email@example.com
Democritus University of Thrace
suggestions=Otan anafereste stin Autokratoria tou Buzantiou ,
nomizw oti tha itan swstotero na tin apokaleitai Romaiki Autokratoria
giati auto itan. O oros Buzantio bgike apo tous Dutikous gia na
apodei3oun oti oi Dytikes Autokratories itan oi episimoi diadoxoi tis
Romaikis Autokratorias kai oxi i Anatoliki Romaiki Autokratoria pou
itan ontws i episimi diadoxos tis Romaikis Autokratorias ws to 1453.
Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:20:52 -0700
suggestions=I really need info on the modern day decendants of the paleologus/monamochus families
Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:53:15 +0200
firstname.lastname@example.org (HYAT TAYE Helga)
suggestions=Premièrement, je trouve que tes remarques sur les Turcs sont particulièrement
déplacés. Si tu n'aimes pas les Turcs ce n'est pas la peine de faire site sur Byzance qui est
je te le rappelle l'actuelle Istanbul située comme tout le monde le sait en Turquie.
D'autre part , je suis sûr que hormis le côté xénophobe "anti-turcs" de ton site, celui-ci est
très interessant mais je suis au regret de te dire qu'il est incompréhensible en français même
si l'on essaie de lire entre les lignes.
Re: CONSTANTINOPLE Suggestions
Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:40:25 +0200
email@example.com (HYAT TAYE Helga)
Je ne suis ni turque ni pro-turc, mais je pense qu'il est très dangereux de répandre
de tels propos concernant tel ou tel peuple. Les turcs ou plutôt les chefs d'état,
les rois, les empereurs qui se sont succédés en Turquie ont en effet commis des atrocités
mais on ne peut pas sous ce prétexte accabler toute une population
et dire que toute la population turque est comme ça.
D'autre part, les Turcs ne sont pas les seuls à avoir colonisé d'autres pays.
Que pensez-vous des 400 ans d'esclavage et de colonisation des grandes puissances telles que
La France, Le Royaume-Uni, L'Espagne, Le Portugal .... Que pensez-vous
de la déportation des aborigènes d'Australie par les Anglais, que pensez-vous
de l'extermination des Indiens d'Amérique du Nord par les nouveaux arrivants,
que pensez-vous de la colonisation à outrance
de certains territoires palestiniens par l'état juif, que pensez-vous de la déportation
et l'extermination pure et simple des juifs, des tziganes, des communistes, des homosexuels
pendant la de guerre mondiale, et que pensez- vous de la collaboration et de l'implication de
l'état français dans ces déportations. Il est bien aisé de reconnaître tel ou tel autre génocide
dans le monde surtout quand on n'a rien fait pour l'empêcher. Les tutsi, les hutus, les angolais,
les libériens etc... dans toute l'afrique, dans toute l'asie, dans toute
l'amérique du sud des gens souffre des atrocités des dirigeants est-ce pour autant que
l'on accable le peuple ? Non, car il est trop facile de faire des amalgames et dire les
turcs sont des salauds plutôt que de dire l'état turc a fait ceci ou cela .
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:21:15 -0700
Andreas Yannakopoulos firstname.lastname@example.org
ÈåñìÜ óõã÷áñçôÞñéá ãéá ôçí óåëßäá óáò êáé ôçí ðñïâïëÞ ôçò "îå÷áóìÝíçò"
áðü ôïõò "áñìüäéïõò" (ðïõ íá ðñùôïâÜëëù åéóáãùãéêÜ íôñïðÞò;)
Êùíóôáíôéíïýðïëçò. ¹äç ôïðïèÝôçóá ó÷åôéêü óýíäåóìï óôçí óåëßäá ìïõ êáé
èá Þìïõí åõãíþìùí áí êÜíáôå êáé åóåßò ôï ßäéï. Ìå ðáôñéôùôéêïýò
Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:58:49 +0100
"Khatchik Panos" email@example.com
I am horrified to find that You of all people are calling the Romans Empire, 'Byzantium'.
This is a western lie, designed to diminish the rights of the Orthodox Church, by demoting
them to 'Greek'.
The Roman Empire of Constantinople eventually went to using greek as a common language, but the
Emperor's were not always 'Greek' some were from Paphlagonia, some were Armenian, some were Syrian.
I understand your point of view, especially on the Turkish Question, but merely parroting The
Lies Of The West will not inhance your position.
You are Romans of Hellas, like the Romans (in Turkish=Rhum Ortodoks) of Anatolia, Albania,
Cyprus, F.Y.R. Macedonia, Bulgaria and Dalmatia.
This Is Your True Cultural Heritage,
dont sell it to the West, to stick in Art-Shows and shoddy books with the name 'Byzantine'.
Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:45:44 -0400
"1center Network" firstname.lastname@example.org
.........T....U...R...K.... SEE YOU SOON
Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:44:21 -0400 (EDT)
"jose romero" email@example.com
name=the mad bomber
suggestions=Stop bitching you know that nothing is done for free any more. You wash my
hands i'll wash yours
ÓÏÕ ÈÕÌÉÆÙ ÑÁÊÉÍÔÆÇ
Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:08:06 +0100
"Nicholas Kropacek" Kropacek@kropacek.freeserve.co.uk
suggestions=It has been a fascinating insight into a tortured mind- the Turkish Bestiary
my personal favourite. All this talk of restoring the decayed and corrupt Byzantine
Empire- your other hobby isn't dungeons and dragons is it. It should be- fantasy seems
to be your life
Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:16:21 -0500 (CDT)
"louis g gineris" firstname.lastname@example.org
country=I LIVE IN AMERICA BUT GREECE IS HOMELAND
suggestions=YOU SHOULD PUT THIS IN YOUR WEBSITE, SINCE TURKEY TOOK OVER CONSTANTINOPLE,
THEIR HAVE BEEN 160 PATRIARCHS THERE. 154 DYING BY EXECUTION OF TURKISH GOVERNMENT, ONLY
6 ALLOWED TO DIE NATURALLY. 33 WERE REMOVED FROM THE PATRIARCHATE, THEN KILLED. THEY WERE
EITHER KILLED BY HANGING, DRAGGING FROM HORSE (AS WAS DONE IN MONGOLIA WHERE
TURKS CAME FROM), AND MOST RECENTLY KILLED BY SHOOTING. THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT
SAYS THESE ARE LIES AND THAT WE ARE SLAVES TO THE CHURCH. TURKS WERE MADE
SOCIALIST BY MUSTAFAH KEMAL (KEMAL ATTATURK), AND NOW REGARD ANY KIND OF
RELIGION AS NONSENSE.
NOW IN GREECE, TURKS IN THRACE WANT
AUTONOMY AND WANT TO TAKE MORE LAND FROM GREECE THAT ISN'T THEIRS. NONE OF THE LAND THEY
LIVE ON IS THEIRS. THE APOSTLES WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO CONVERT ANY ASIANS, BUT THERE IS AN
EPISTLE IN THE BIBLE KNOWN AS GALATIANS (GALATIA IS NOW KNOWN AS ANKARA). THIS IS PROOF
THAT NO ONE OF ASIAN DESCENT LIVED THAT FARWEST UNTIL THE TURKS TOOK THAT LAND LIKE THE
BARBARIANS THEY ARE. EAST OF GALATIA WAS KUDISTAN, ALSO TAKEN BY THE TURKS.
THE REASON THAT U.S. AND WESTERN EUROPE SUPPORTS TURKEY IS BECAUSE THEY
BORDER RUSSIA AND IRAQ, TWO OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST ENEMIES. CLINTON HIMSELF HAS
NO RELIGION, OR MAYBE HE IS MUSLIM AND THAT'S WHY HE SUPPORTS TURKEY AND ALBANIA.
IN DECEMBER OF 1998 AMERICA STARTED BOMBING IRAQ TO PUT OFF
IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS, BUT CLINTON STOPPED THE BOBIMGS FOR RAMADON.
WHILE BOMBING SERBIA CLINTON DIDN'T STOP BOMBING ON NEITHER WESTERN OF EASTERN EASTER.
HE ALSO COMMITED ADULTERY AND THEN LIED ABOUT IT, TWO SINS THAT ARE ON THE
I HOPE THIS INFORMATION WAS USEFUL TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR READING IT.
YOUR WEBSITE IS ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST TRUTHFUL. THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH
AND WHEN I GET MORE INFO I WILL SUBMIT IT TO YOU,
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WRITE TO THIS E-MAIL JGINERIS@HOTMAIL.COM
peace requires moderation
Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:20:19 +0300
email@example.com (Mustafa Cicek)
It was really so frustrating to read such a mail from an Internet
friend. I thought that Internet has broken the chains of people enslaved by
gender, religion and nationality discrimination. Your mail prompted me to
send you a brief, straightforward and correct info about Turkish people. I
hope I won’t be too harsh while doing it. But I would like to apologise in
First of all we are never indifferent about other people’s lives and
freedom, in other words we respect all the people and never threat them with
war or any other way. Why should we do that? We know how hard it is to gain
and preserve freedom. Freedom is precious and sacred for us ‘cos we lost
thousands of people in World War I. We don’t want war. Regarding your claim
on missiles crisis, Greek was the one to buy Russian missiles and endanger
the peace b/w two countries. Your country was the one warned by other
countries because of this incomprehensible attempt. I found your thoughts
completely provocative, misleading and misrepresenting.
Without prejudice, regardless of their religion and nationality we see
everyone as a human being and treat them the way they deserve. That’s why
Turkish people are known with their hospitality. Ask a foreigner’s idea
about Turks who has been in Turkiye before. The first word she/he will use
would be "friendly". How many Turkish people do you know? Don’t believe on
every word you hear.
You’ve always heard the bad sides of Turkiye and Turkish people. Don’t
you think this is unreasonable? As your country, our country is made up of
different types of people too; conservatives, democrats, leftists, educated,
If they have shown you bad examples so far, of course, you will know us
as bad. One or two people can’t represent a whole country and you shouldn’t
be prejudiced. We shouldn’t blame each other, politicians are the one to
Come to Turkiye, knock a door, these people will host you with all their
sincereness and will provide you food and accommodation without any
expectation and regardless of your nationality and religion.
What you read here now is neither a fake nor a story. This is an
invitation to you.
As a proof of my words come to Turkiye and learn real Turks. I’m positive
and honest about everything I told you. I’m behind my works. Expecting your
reply with great interest and remain with best regards.
Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:19:13 +0300
country=Canadian & British
suggestions=I would really like to know why every comtemporary mention of Istanbul
is referred to as Constantinople? I would also like to know who is organising this page.
Can you really persecute a population of people based on a western standard of history?
History is NEVER mere fact- it is the interpretation of the observer, historian, politician
(the list could go on) and I would have you think a little about your own histories
and some of the "facts" presented in your history books. I am currently living in Turkey
and I am coming to understand and appreciate the problems this country faces every day.
But it is people like the ones who splash these web sites over the internet that continue
to foster hatred and negative attitudes towards other human beings. Human nature is selfish,
warring and protective, among a myriad of positive qualities as well. But to criticise a
group of people only causes racial tension and feelings of isolation. Is this what you want
it is what do you suggest we do with all these "barbaric Turks"?
Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:19:19 -0700
suggestions=when you call someone stupid or ignorant and your page is filled with
" how is it called" all you do is prove your own stupidity. the correct sentance is
"what is it called"
Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:53:29 -0400
suggestions=Thank you for supporting Truth and Justice!
http://home.earthlink.net/~edwardk/mylinks/turkishcrimes.htm >>Please add my link to your page,
I am with you! firstname.lastname@example.org
Sun, 30 May 1999 01:23:20 +0300
email@example.com (Melih POGE)
Is it a solution to hide all the minarets on the pictures of Ayasofya ( St. Sophia ) Museum.
Ithink it is not a good behaviour to cheat people in that way. Since 1453
the city belongs to us and its name is Istanbul.
In my opinion Greek and Turkish people like each other and can live together as before, forget
the polititions and their cheap way to have your votes...
Fri, 21 May 1999 07:06:32 PDT
"Tim Arnold" firstname.lastname@example.org
You Greeks are really pushing it. You do not want to disturb a great nation
like Turkiye. According to Jane's defence news, it takes Turkiye two days
to beat your asses. There are a lot of Greek sites on the net which provide
racisim and hatred to their viewers against the Turks. But, there is not a
SINGLE hatred site on the net against Greeks made by Turks!!!!!!!!! I wonder
why???????????? Is it you or us??? Why don't you mention you were treating
Turks like Serbs treating Albanians today before the invasion of Cyprus. You
accepted us to just sit there and watch your crimes? HELL NO!!!!!!! You
never understand, one of us go down, another of us surely will be there to
take one's revenge. DO NOT FORGET THAT IF YOU PUSH A COUNTRY VERY HARD WHICH
KICKED YOUR ASSES BEFORE, THE HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF AND YOU WILL BE THE
ONES TO PAY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS. Try to put this into your
Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:01 PDT
"Ibrahim Deniz" email@example.com
Who's paying for all these silly articles and photos and how much do you
think you know Abdullah Ocalan? Did you see the murdered and burnt babies? I
reccomend you not to see them cause you can shame on you.
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Fri, 14 May 1999 22:33:47 -0400
suggestions=Great job!! Keep up the good work here!
Fri, 14 May 1999 19:02:24 +0300 (LDT)
"M.Mazvydo vid. m-klos direktorius" firstname.lastname@example.org
Martyno Mazvydo vidurine mokykla
I am Egle Laumeliene from Lithuania. Our team is making a history
project for Lithuanian secondary schools. This project is not
a commercial it is for history education. We are supported by OSF
[Open Society Fund]. Your page is very interesting, so we need your
agreement to grab [download] your page.
We would like to ask you, if we could take some 2 pages
from your WWW site? We are going to use them at the history
lessons for 7-8 from pupils, while showing CD-Roms.
Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:05:21 +0300
MAYA BASIN email@example.com
If your army is ready for Ýstanbul we are waiting. You are just talking
enough talk. Come and get what you and you alike deserve. Meet the Army
of Allah and the sons of Grey Wolf. We are waiting. We are ready bugs
like you. If you are strong enough stop killing West Trakya Turks come
try us. You will find 70 million turkish warriors. In fact 100.000 will
be enough likes of you. Do not forget 2 days will be enough for all
greece. We won't forget you and likes of you. We always remember...
Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:15:19 +0200
"Nikolaos Reljin" firstname.lastname@example.org
I'm SO GLAD I've FOUND SOMEONE OF MY IDEAS!!!!
Ki ego eimai Ellinas (miso ellinas, miso Serbos - meno sto Beligradi)
Visit this... and tell me if you're interested to cooperate:
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:54:21 PST
"Jas Gill" email@example.com
I have a coin with the following info:
Is is possible to tell me what era this is from, and if I am at the
correct web site.
About Empire of Byzantium
Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:03:00 -0800 (PST)
"P. M." firstname.lastname@example.org
I have seen your WEB site.
You have written that Empire of Byzantium was
an "ellenic" empire.
In my opinion, the Empire of Byzantium was....
and was a "roman" Empire:
< Imperium Romanorum pars orientis >
Infact, byzantine Emperor was called always a
"roman Emperor": Caesar.
Secundum Jus romanum publicum.
Right ! The language was the "greek", but the
Empire was "roman".
THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE WAS NOT GREEK, BUT ROMAN, ALWAYS.
DO NOT FORGET, PLEASE !
Answer of Web Administrator
Thank you for taking time to visit my webpage.
Thank you for writing to me your comments.
Here is my view.
Byzantium was created by a roman emperor, in the middle of Hellenism.
Pontos, Minor Asia, Bosporus were the heart of Hellenic trade, culture,
also great philosophers were born in Ionia, Ephesos (Minor Asia) etc.
So, as Byzantinologists admit, the power came in hands of Hellenes in
The language was hellenic, the dominant race of the poliethnic empire
was the Hellenes.
Trade, industry, literature etc. were hellenic and the works of
philosophers and ancient Hellenes were preserved in Byzantium, or else
they wouldn 't be known today.
However due to religion fanatism there was a war for non christians, and
the name Hellenes meant for them paganists. They called themselves
romans but the people were
descendants of ancient Hellenes as well as we Hellenes are descendants
In fact nobody call us with our proper name. In ancient Hellas the word
was not used as much as Athenians, Spartians, Korinthians, Macedonians,
Romans and later Europeans called us Greeks from the word "Grekoi",
Turks call us Younan etc.
To whom you think belong the heritage of Byzantium?
Please answer to me this question.
To catholic Italians or Francs who fought against us in13th,14th
To slavs whom we made Orthodox, but used to fight also Byzantium for
I think belongs to Hellenes, who still today follow the same exactly
rituals and protocols in Orthodox church and honour the great times of
Byzantium, for example we chant in our church "Akathistos Hymn" for
celebration of a great victory against Avars in 626,
and we mourn the fall of Constantinople in 29 May 1453, and death of our
last emperor Constantine Palaeologus.
I myself come from Constantinople. Turks burned our house in 1955 and my
parents moved in Greece.
What am I? Am I a descendant of Byzantines or not? Am I Hellenas or not?
Thank for reading this mail.
* The snobing of Europeans to Byzantium proves that it was Hellenic and
not anything else. You will never see a movie in Hollywood for Byzantine
empire, because the westerners have nothing to do with it.
Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:41:43 +0800
"A. Omer Koker" email@example.com
1- Grow up
2- Open your eyes
3- Learn your history, not your politicans bable
Why do you think the Ottoman Empire lived 600+ years as an empire where
the Turks were not always the majority?
Why has you country supported a terrorist not accepted by the rest of
Europe while at the same time trying to hide the fact. How smart was
it to hide it in a country with hundreds of inteligence officers from
the previous bombing?
Think how successful Greece was in its current line of policies against
For a change, think!
A. Omer Koker.
The real terrorist is the turkish state.
It has exterminated all the minorities who lived in Turkey.
You invaded from Moggolia and exterminated the populations who lived
in Kurdistan, Armenia, Pontos, Minor Asia, Constantinople.
Kurds some day will have their counrty.
1917. 1000000 Armenians massacred.
1921. 1500000 Greeks massacred.
1999. Thousands of Kurds killed.
Some day you will pay for your crimes and we will return to our
A Greek or an Assyrian or a Kurd or an Armenian.
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:04:03 -0600
Jason and Dorothy Eubanks firstname.lastname@example.org
First, I would like to congratulate you on maintaining an excellent web
site. I am strongly pro Greek. I like to think of myself as a
Hellenized American, the Greek people have long held a place of honor in
my thoughts and feelings. Secondly, I would like to comment on the
American involvement in Kosovo. The problem is not the U.S. per se, it
is our disgraceful leader Bill Clinton. His reputation as a great
American President that he seeks is now destroyed by his own actions.
In light of the scandals, he is attempting to build his reputation on
the blood of innocent people. He dropped bombs on Iraq and Afaganistan
to get scandal off the headlines. To say that this president is
ambitious is a gross understatement, he is hell-bent on leaving a great
legacy, so that he will be praised eternally in America. It now appears
that he betrayal of secret American technology to the Chinese government
that has greatly expanded their capabilities to wage a nuclear holocaust
against the U.S. What did he get in return you ask? 10 million dollars
in campaign money. He sold the security of 275 million Americans, and
countless others for 10 million dollars. He has brokered a series of
short lived peace agreements. The Irish continue to kill each other
without hesitation, the Israelis and Palestinians keep on dying as
before. He views Kosovo has a final chance to redeem his "great legacy
to the world" (his words). I'm of the view that the America has no
right to violate Serbia's sovereignty. Kosovo is a matter Serbia her
and her people. As for the evil empire of Turkey, I do not like
them.They are little more than thugs. It angers me to no end that the
U.S. doesn't say anything, let alone do anything about them. Yet, I
remain hopeful that I will see the liberation of Constatinople during my
life time, for when the Turk have finished killing Kurds and Armenians,
there will be no one for the Turks to kill but themselves. Until that
day when the Cross triumphs over the Crescent, I bid you farewell and
From: "Ela GORKEM" email@example.com
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:33:33 +0100
J'ai lu avec grande indignation, =E9coeurement, abjection,
horreur le site web que vous avez consacrer a la Turquie. Il m'est tres
difficile d'admettre l'existence de personnes telle que vous, capable de
tenir des propos aussi haineux a l'egard de la Turquie. Pour votre
information depuis 1453 il n'existe aucune ville en Turquie sous le nom
de Constantinople; ancienne capitale de l'Empire Byzantin.
Pourquoi tant de haine, j'ai vraiment du mal a le comprendre. En
plus d'une totale meconnaissance des veritables faits historiques, votre
page est composee d'une multitude de mensonges, de propagande et des
images de drapeau Turc duquel degouline des gouttes de sang ne font
que me conforter dans l'idee que vous devriez suivre une therapie pour
guerir des problemes auquels vous etes confronter.
En esperant que votre traitement se deroulera dans les
Une lectrice outr=E9e=20
From: "Cellule FSE" firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:48:25 +0100
Aucune objectivité. Vous vous prenez peut-être pour des saints...
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